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Old 05-27-2009, 01:39 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I see.

Now what if I'm a low rank, lets say E-2, but I'm stunningly attractive. Could I get some officer tail on the sly and make like nothing happened or would said officer find out and feed me to a shark?
Probably not. Like I said there are no shortage of guys. Why would a female officer choose you (whom she could get an OTH for sleeping with) over a fellow officer who not only she wont get in trouble with, but probably has a better chance of getting with her anyway. I mean think about it, they make it really hard for something like that to happen. Officers have different quarters, different mess deck, seperate offices, and generally aren't found conversating with enlisted personnel outside of duties. So even striking up a flirtatious conversation with said officer without raising suspision is going to be a task. Not to mention the other 6 officer dudes trying to get with the same chick who you somehow have to convince not to turn you both in for fraternization if even so much as a back scratching were to be found out about. Basically what im saying is on a ship deployment its pretty much high school except all the cool kids are the officers and they have too much power. All the same factors still apply, hot girls have the ultimate advantage, ass-kissers still exsist, you still have a ton of narcs willing to spill the beans the first chance they get to look good and the administration is still corrupt as hell. There's alot of drama and the best way to deal with it is to stay out of it. That's why I don't mess with NAVY chicks. Bad news, bad bad news.
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Old 05-27-2009, 02:54 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I meant if I could sleep with another low rank who was sleeping with an officer.
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Old 05-27-2009, 02:58 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:36 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Probably not. Like I said there are no shortage of guys. Why would a female officer choose you (whom she could get an OTH for sleeping with) over a fellow officer who not only she wont get in trouble with, but probably has a better chance of getting with her anyway. I mean think about it, they make it really hard for something like that to happen. Officers have different quarters, different mess deck, seperate offices, and generally aren't found conversating with enlisted personnel outside of duties. So even striking up a flirtatious conversation with said officer without raising suspision is going to be a task. Not to mention the other 6 officer dudes trying to get with the same chick who you somehow have to convince not to turn you both in for fraternization if even so much as a back scratching were to be found out about. Basically what im saying is on a ship deployment its pretty much high school except all the cool kids are the officers and they have too much power. All the same factors still apply, hot girls have the ultimate advantage, ass-kissers still exsist, you still have a ton of narcs willing to spill the beans the first chance they get to look good and the administration is still corrupt as hell. There's alot of drama and the best way to deal with it is to stay out of it. That's why I don't mess with NAVY chicks. Bad news, bad bad news.
It's exactly the same way in the Army.

There's a saying we used to toss around when we'd see a hot female who was high ranking: "She worked under the desk, now she works behind it."
It seems sexist at first glance, but statistically, it's all too true.
That's just how they get "a head".
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:01 PM   #105 (permalink)
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I meant if I could sleep with another low rank who was sleeping with an officer.
Oh yeah more than likely, they're Navy chicks dude, they'll do whatever. Odds are if the officer has half a brain he not trying to get serious with her anyway. Yeah so if shes putting out to one guy there's probably 2 or 3 more getting the same. You could be one of those guys.

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It's exactly the same way in the Army.

There's a saying we used to toss around when we'd see a hot female who was high ranking: "She worked under the desk, now she works behind it."
It seems sexist at first glance, but statistically, it's all too true.
That's just how they get "a head".
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I couldn't agree with you more. Like I said my LPO married a damn MC to make rank. when does it end?
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:06 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Air Force is different. Rank is based entirely on test scores, time in grade, and EPR's. Sleeping with an officer wont help either. (maybe effect your EPR slightly, but it's doubtful) I had something going with my OIC when I first got in. All I got was an annoying clingy girl that thought there was nothing weird about messing around with her annoying little yippy dog crawling on top while we were doing stuff. I still had to wait the three years to put on E-4 like everyone else, and still had to wait the year and a half and get the score to put on E-5 recently.
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:30 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Air Force is different. Rank is based entirely on test scores, time in grade, and EPR's. Sleeping with an officer wont help either. (maybe effect your EPR slightly, but it's doubtful) I had something going with my OIC when I first got in. All I got was an annoying clingy girl that thought there was nothing weird about messing around with her annoying little yippy dog crawling on top while we were doing stuff. I still had to wait the three years to put on E-4 like everyone else, and still had to wait the year and a half and get the score to put on E-5 recently.
Damn dude, thats risky buisness. I put on E-4 in 7 months (no big deal) and Navy does advancement exams also. But evaluations weigh very heavily on advancement as well. Basically it comes down to a decision board that decides who make it and who doesn't by looking at you on paper. So if you have the person writing you eval in your pocket then you have a serious advantage even if you test like a rock. Maybe in the air force its different, in fact im almost sure of it. But regardless, my point is that in the Navy, favoritism is a fairly big issue.

p.s. Is it rue you guys take your PRT on bikes?
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Damn dude, thats risky buisness. I put on E-4 in 7 months (no big deal) and Navy does advancement exams also. But evaluations weigh very heavily on advancement as well. Basically it comes down to a decision board that decides who make it and who doesn't by looking at you on paper. So if you have the person writing you eval in your pocket then you have a serious advantage even if you test like a rock. Maybe in the air force its different, in fact im almost sure of it. But regardless, my point is that in the Navy, favoritism is a fairly big issue.

p.s. Is it rue you guys take your PRT on bikes?

The army's method of advancement is truly jacked up.
E1-E4 is automatic unless you're flagged for fuckin' up... which is ok. But to advance from E4 to E5 (NCO from there up), you need the obvious time in grade / time in service, and... points.
Some MOS' points are extremely high (798) and some are low, which is dependent on how many slots for E-5 there currently is in the MOS.
To obtain these points, all you do is take a crap-load of army correspondence courses (which is a matter of copy+pasting from answer discs), score well on PT, marksmanship, plus any awards you have, and turn them into S-2 and they add to your points based on that.
After that, you go to a promotion board, in which the panel asks you a bunch of stupid questions. If you go to a board, you automatically get more points. If they decide to say you're promotable, then all you have to do from that point is wait until the point cutoff drops for your MOS. Then you're promoted. OR... you can get an auto promotion if your MOS needs more NCO's.
The reason this is jacked up, is any piece of shit E-4 can easily become an lower end NCO... NCO's are the guys doing the leadership. What you end up with is a bunch of 20 year old kids wearing stripes and setting all the wrong examples, making bad decisions, etc.
The process is the same for advancement to E-6.
E-7 and up is a selection process, and it revolves around your "NCOER" (kinda like a record of your accomplishments and fuck ups... and a photograph of yourself. If you don't look like upper enlisted material, you simply don't make it.

Oh, and I wish we did PT tests on a bike. That would have been sweet.
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:46 PM   #110 (permalink)
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I wish we did PT tests on bikes too, but alas, it is a rumor I'm guessing started by you Army fucks (veridical).
AF doesn't have evaluation boards until you get up into SNCO ranks. For E-5 and E-6, you just use your score and your EPR. Most everyone gets 5's on their EPR's, which is max, so that's why it doesn't matter if you've kissed ass or not. That score's probably the same for everyone. So all you really have to go on is scores and time in grade.
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