adidasss

So you basically don't care about state sanctioned homophobia. Kewlt.

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IamAlejo

Is it height discrimination that if you are over a certain height you can't join the Air Force? Sometimes traits that happen at birth and you can do nothing about inhibit you to do a certain job, or inhibit upon others to do their job.

If the people that are actually out there doing the job tell me that it would cause a difference in the job they do, then I'm fine with how it is. And I don't get the whole race discrimination point, the armed forces were segregated for quite some time.

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adidasss

And now they're not. Still don't see my point here?

Incidentally, I wouldn't mind hearing those more detailed explanations from actual service men on why gays shouldn't serve in the army.

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IamAlejo

Right, and to your point it too quite some time to desegregate after they became full rights protected citizens. So wouldn't it be safe to assume that it's going to take some time before ***s get the same rights in the military?

I try to talk with my seal buddies tonight, but most of the time they're a bit hammered by the time I get to the oceanfront so I'm not sure I'll get the best responses.

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Bane of your existence

Took more time? Military was far more progressive than the rest of the country when it came to desegrigation. The units were desegrigated, as well as enlisted clubs and hang out spots years before the rest of the country did it. This is all fresh in my head because we got visited by five of the orignal Tuskegee Airmen a couple weeks ago.

adidasss

That simply wasn't the case as Bane rightfully noted. You can google it yourself.

There's no need, we have an actual man serving in Iraq right now saying he gets along with his gay comrades just fine and that it doesn't affect the cohesion of their unit(s). It's highly probable your buddies' reasoning won't amount to much more than homophobia.

Had your government pandered to the prejudices of its servicemen, you would still have segregation in the military. The fact is that sexual orientation plays no part in your ability to serve your country. What's problematic here is your blasé attitude towards the blatant and shameful discrimination of your fellow citizens.

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IamAlejo

Segregation in the armed forces lasted through WWII. It was segregated for quite some time. But believe whatever you want. Everything involving desegregation in this country has been slow, what tends you to believe this should happen so fast? I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying it might be the best for all parties involved to occur with minimal incidents.

And the fact is that sexual orientation does play a part in the ability of others to serve their country, coming straight from the mouth of some people that serve it. And no offense, but I'm sure cohesion in the Seals is a bit more needed than someone enlisted.

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Thrice

I hope you dont speak of the entire enlisted field. Even though, I still dont see how someones sexuality effects the workplace whatsoever. Its two thousand fucking nine.

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Oh, are you sure?
Speak on what you know, man, not what you feel like is.

adidasss

Ok, on second thought, it really would be nice to hear how and why those SEALs feel that the presence of homosexuals in the unit breaks its cohesion and inhibits them from doing their job.

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