Ladies and Gentlemen, the Vice President of the United States of America
 

It takes talent to be this retarded.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/....ap/index.html

My god....**** cheney...for fuc.k sakes haha

Sounds very American to me.

Of course it happens a lot, because the world is full of idiots. If someone else shot a guy on a hunting trip I'd call him f*cking retarded too.

I'll read it later.
My eyes hurt.

They're cracking down on him because it indicates towards the level of intelligence embodied on perhaps the second most powerful man in America (ignoring the people who pay the bribe monies)

No, it's different because the guy has no real chance of dying, and really wasn't hurt badly at all. You would know that if you cared to read the article you linked.

He got shot with a pellet gun from 30 yards away. I'm sorry that I won't lose sleep over this tonight.

The point isn't that he didn't kill him, the point is that he shot him in the first place.

The point is that the guy isn't hurt seriously, and that in hunting this isn't that odd of an event. Especially when you have an elderly man who has been through quite a few health problems and shouldn't really be hunting because of his condition but wants to because it's a hobby of his.

That's truly the point. The guy is not an "idiot".

No, he is an idiot. As you said, he is "an elderly man who has been through quite a few health problems and shouldn't really be hunting because of his condition". It's not like golf, if you f*ck up, you could kill someone. Anyone who puts another person's life in danger because they "don't want to give up" a hobby is an idiot. I just can't help but laugh how typical your reply is. He only shot someone, it's not like he killed him. People get shot all the time. No wonder the US has such a rediculously high amount of accidental shootings.

Multimillionare or not, I hope the guys ok. I mean, I don't hunt, and I think I've seen a quail, but its gotta be hard to confuse the two.

Poor bastard. There will be unreasonable workup over this.

Hey does anyone know if he was using a shotgun? And what about shotgun pellets? I couldn't really tell from the article.

Could someone beat that over my head more repeatedly...maybe in bold text?

I don't know why it was hard for you tell.

Maybe he thought it was al-Qader doers.

Mr Cheney's next hunting trip he should invite the President

Cheney's a ****. if it was colin powel on the huntin' trip nobody would have been shot.

Jibber, shotgun pellets, especially from the 30 yards away, is just about enough to break the skin. There is a GINORMOUS difference between that and getting shot with a shotgun that has actual shotgun ammunition.

And to big3, it wasn't the difference between seeing a quail and a big bright old guy in an orange jumpsuit. He was following the quail (tracing him) and when he shot it happened that the other man was in his line of fire since he was out picking up his quail.

Poor hunting tactics? Yes, they should have all gone to get it together, but old people are lazy. But national emergency? Hells no.

This is completely wrong. He was shooting game, but following it a person got in the path right as Cheney shot. READ THE ARTICLE.

And also, when you say there is a huge difference between shotgun pellets and a pellet gun, there really isn't that much of a difference. Just that the shotgun pellets have a much wider range when fired. Hence the guy getting hit with pellets in the face and neck and chest.

YOU read the article. He was approaching NOT in Cheneys path, Cheney spun round and before checking his path he shot.

"Whittington "came up from behind the vice president ... The covey flushed and the vice president picked out a bird and was following it and shot. And by God, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good.""

PEOPLE HALF BLIND SHOULD KNOW NOT TO GO HUNTING. IT IS RETARDED FOR PEOPLE TO LET THEIR EGO OVERTAKE THEIR ABILITY. THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT ACTS LIKE THIS ARE INDICATIVE BOTH TO CHENEYS ATTITUDE OF PEOPLE AROUND HIM (and in general), AND HIS OPINION OF HIS OWN CAPABILITIES. It just doesn't help that he hospitalised someone at the same time.

"Sorry I shot you, it's OK though! Afterall, I'm decrepid, half blind and we're in dark area it's pretty hard NOT to shoot my buddies in those conditions, ha! Not hunt in those conditions? Why would I do that, I ENJOY hunting! And look on the brightside, my shotguns ONLY loaded with pellets rather than full on bullets. Nobody liked your face anyway."

I cannot actually believe your peoples attitudes to shooting someone. "Never point your gun at something unless you intend to destroy it" is the sort of thing I gather they're taught in gun proficiency tests. THESE PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW HOW NOT TO SHOOT THEIR BUDDIES. If I had a slack jawed trigger happy redneck in a seat of such power I'd be shitting myself.

It must be to people here, b/c this thread has gotten more replies than the Katrina thread, the Hamas thread, the Energy thread, the Islamic cartoon thread, and the Bird Flu thread. So yeah, pretty much all the prominent global issues in the past half-year are just not as appealing as kicking a man when he's down. And as Cheney's penis, I think I have a say! By the way, here's the followup to the initial report.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/...ney/index.html

On the other hand, perhaps it's just that those threads didn't kick off contrasting opinions from which discussion could flow.

Nobody talks much if all they'd say is "I agree"

Bunch of guys, hanging out in the woods. I dunno, seems kinda ***.

Alright, here I go trying to explain this. When you go hunting the hunters normally get in a group together, normally a straight line, so that people always know where everyone else is. The other elderly man left the line to go get a quail he shot.

Cheney was following a quail and as he shot he crossed the path of the elderly man, so the man got shot. It was a hunting mistake on both men, but that's about all you can stretch it to.

I still fail to see the big issue in all of this. Getting shot at that distance with pellets is about the same look as having chickenpox. It does no real damage at all.

If people were wandering around forests giving out chicken pox it would be fine?

Bull****. If you cannot find a hobby that doesn't creat constant risk of hurting friends, don't have a hobby.

There are tons of hobbies that have risks of hurting people.

You enjoy going to shows? You ever skateboard? You enjoy driving a car?

And getting chickenpox and getting the appearance that you have chickenpox aren't even close to being the same.

Skateboarding and driving generally put yourself at more risk than other people, and in the case of driving there's generally far more safety and skill surrounding it. Largely because race tracks are a one way system for a start. I'm also missing the part where race drivers and skateboarders go out of their way to run over animals ...

Please excuse me if I don't condone sports that involve peppering animals, and sometimes humans, with high velocity metal pellets. Please excuse me if I even less condone the aged and half blind to wander around with loaded guns in dark conditions. But then again, he enjoys the sport. It MUST be fine. He should know better but his inability to make mature decisions regarding his friends lives reflects nothing on his ability to have a large hand in running one of the largest countries in the world.

You truly know nothing about hunting. The situation was much more the friend's fault than that of Cheney's.

I'm not asking for you to condone the sport.

Someone got shot in the U.S. & we`re supposed to be shocked by this?

Actually Cheney was trying to take this guy out. He knew to much. Figured he'd take him out to the range and take him out with the good ole "accidental hunting mistake". Works every time.

"There WERE three people here. Now there are two. I do not know where the third person is. I shall continue shooting anyway!"

Seems a nobrainer, "more" his fault doesn't counter into it. He's not the second post powerful man in the country.

Your sentence on the "there were 3 guys here, now there's 2" shows me you've never been hunting. You really lose focus on outside things.

You're supposed to be in line with everyone else, and not move from that line. The elderly man went to go grab a quail he had shot. That is probably the single worst idea you can do while hunting, unless you bring the other men with you.

Well yeah, there's kinda a few obstacles to hunting in this country.

So let me put this in perspective... in one thread you have so-and-so doesn't know anything about winter sports. And in this thread, it's so-and-so doesn't know anything about hunting...

Ok, I have decided....STAY AWAY FROM GUNS AND SNOW.

I figured as much, but therefore it's hard to call someone an idiot for doing something which you've never done. Besides stapling your nuts to a table and such.

Hunting is quite common in the US, especially where Cheney is from. From reading the article and having experience hunting, I guess it doesn't seem like much to me.

If I had never gone hunting, and see an article titled "Cheney shoots man" i'd get the same impression. But I've tried explaining it, and people seem stuck on original opinions, no matter how clueless those are.

I don't claim to have been hunting. But logic dictates that if you're going hunting you should be more mindful of your surroundings. Sure it's "only pellets" but the guy was still hospitalised.

I do not care how caught up you get when you're hunting. If it were any other person I'd think "well it's just more reasons to not allow people to wander about with loaded guns" and not make an issue of it. I don't care that some corporate bigwig got himself splayed with pellets. I care that a man who is in such a high position within arguably the biggest single superpower and NOBODY is bothered that he's putting himself in positions where this can happen.

Not to mention that it's more than slightly concerning that you're absolutely fine with people partaking in a sport where it's common place for people to accidentally shoot each other. It's ok, he was only hospitalised.

The VP goes driving sometimes, putting him at the risk of running someone over. While the chances of that are low, so are the chances of shooting someone while hunting.

I'm fine with people partaking in any sport they choose, as risk of injuring yourself or someone else is involved in just about every sport. If you compared injuries per year hunting with basketball, football, american football, and almost any other sport I would bet that injuries are the same if not lower.

This whole incident shows absolutely nothing on Cheney's ability to do his job. And mainly that is what I'm concerned with, his ability to do his job.

Since when does one of these

http://www.worldbook.com/features/bi...sets/quail.jpg

Get confused with a big bright one of these

http://www.llbean.com/products/sport...ter_Orange.jpg

yo, dat's different from what i heard son. i heard he ****ed all over a guy's face.

^^ha y0u rule

Seriously, it's on the 5th page now. Read the story for ****s sake. It's not a long story.