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TheCunningStunt 06-19-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 685989)
I think the thing is that Cunning here doesn't believe in God, but he exists - or - he doesn't believe in an afterlife, but he's a bit scared there is one and what you experience after death is sentience without actually being able to do anything.

Well, not sure what you expect from us. It's a pretty wild idea. It's a bit like saying : What if when you die, you wake up and realize your whole life as a human was a dream. In fact, you are a princess in a fantasy world much like Lord of the Rings who was put to sleep by a witch's spell.

I can say it's probably not like that, but I'm not sure if that makes you feel better.

I don't believe in God. I believe when your body dies, the mind dies with it. The thing people aren't getting is the hypotheticalness of my question.

I ask WHAT IF you lead your life right because you believe there is an afterlife and you WHAT IF SOMEHOW you realise whilst you're dead, that there is no afterlife. How would you feel?

If I believed in God and thought the reward would be heaven, I'd be most displeased.

right-track 06-19-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 686028)

If I believed in God and thought the reward would be heaven, I'd be most displeased.

Well you'd have a long time to get over it. So no worries there.

right-track 06-19-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 685918)
I think that'd be more rewarding than going to heaven, to watch your life, every second of it, all the way up until you die.

That has to be my worse vision of hell I could imagine.

TheCunningStunt 06-19-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 686041)
That has to be my worse vision of hell I could imagine.

Why?

Not enjoying your life thus far?

So far, I'd quite like to see my life.

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SATCHMO 06-19-2009 02:24 PM

This is what passes for theological/metaphysical discussion on MB.:rolleyes:

right-track 06-19-2009 02:28 PM

theo meta whut?

sleepy jack 06-19-2009 02:36 PM

Speak American mister!

right-track 06-19-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 686068)
Speak American mister!

Yeah. Goddamn Limey's with their fancy high fallooting cipherings. :/

Neapolitan 06-19-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 685933)
I'm athiest.

I use it as a figure of speech more than anything, like many athiests..

Priests also take a vow of celibacy.

Surely if a priest honestly lived their life with no love or sexytime or sin/guilt, to serve God, said priest would expect to be rewarded with eternal peace in heaven.

I think God is just a nice story, bible is a book of fairytales, God is something that makes children feel like if they do bad, God will punish them. He's an unpaid babysitter. Of course, I'm not a synic, I'm a bit ignorant to certain things in cristianity, but if I'm proved wrong one day, I'd love it. It'd be a great thing, the idea that someone is greater than us all, someone, or something actually made us all..

Why did you say "Priests also take a vow of celibacy."
Isn't the "vow of celibacy" the same as the "vow of absenence?"

You are the first atheist I met that was not a cynic, you mention God a lot and seem pretty excited to meet him in the afterlife.

Hypothecticallyt I don't think a good priest will feel "Punk'd" if Ashton Kushner shown up in his funeral raised him from the dead and then told him "There's no afterlife" then both of them vanished...

Put it this way if you were in the desert and had no food or drink and then suddenly you met a stranger, and he gave you some food and water, wouldn't you want him to do that because you were a person not because he was thinking of himself getting a reward or payment in the future. You would feel better on the inside if the stranger was acting frinedly and not going to take advatnge of you.

I like baseball, I don't like the player that makes the most money, I like the player who plays heart out like it was the most important game of his life. You're from Manchester right?? so just substitute football for baseball - I guess.

See you know about knid deed and doing your best, so in a way that is like a little heaven on Earth. So the proof of heaven in the afterlife is little heaven, the good, we experience now.

Freebase Dali 06-19-2009 09:59 PM

We're wasting MB server space with text about afterlives.

If you believe in an afterlife, just wait 'till you get there and you can email everyone about it.
If not, there's probably better things to discuss.


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