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Guybrush 08-21-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 722558)
^_^;;

You can argue against the point if you'd like.

But you may notice a little bit later in the thread that I take everything back.

Haha.

You mean to say you were trolling? ;)

Arya Stark 08-22-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 722561)
You mean to say you were trolling? ;)

No.

I mean to say I typed without thinking.

Classof75 09-06-2009 10:56 AM

Heard on the news the other day that a Japanese moon surveying satellite had found the Apollo landing site, de-bunking the lunar landing "conspiracy" theorest's claims that no landing was actually made.

Farfisa 09-06-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Classof75 (Post 730875)
Heard on the news the other day that a Japanese moon surveying satellite had found the Apollo landing site, de-bunking the lunar landing "conspiracy" theorest's claims that no landing was actually made.

That news is a few months old man.

Neapolitan 09-06-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 731093)
That news is a few months old man.

pfft so it came out few months ago, it was new when he heard it, and why are him calling "old man"?

Farfisa 09-06-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 731156)
pfft so it came out few months ago, it was new when he heard it, and why are him calling "old man"?

Ohh darn I forgot to put a comma between old and man. Now thanks to that lack of a comma my statement has become horribly misinterpreted. :rolleyes:

Yukon Cornelius 09-07-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 719704)
If someone has that belief that it was a conspiracy, that's on them, it doesn't seem proper to call them an idiot. I'm more curious in what people believe, what they think about Apollo 11, not what they think of other people. This topic is about if Apollo 11 did or didn't land on the moon, and evidence one has to offer to prove one's point - it's not about name calling.

I saw a stat on the lunar landing it it is only 6% not 20% for Americans that does not believe man landed on the moon.

take care

Based on what evidence, if you believe something there should be a foundation... I want the meat and potatoes. Its nothing personal its just give me the info... I have heard most of it mind you, however, it all sounds like a bunch of ppl trying to get ABC's ratings up.

Classof75 09-08-2009 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 731159)
Ohh darn I forgot to put a comma between old and man. Now thanks to that lack of a comma my statement has become horribly misinterpreted. :rolleyes:

Well, at 52, on this forum I AM an "old man"! :wave:

crash_override 09-08-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Classof75 (Post 731948)
Well, at 52, on this forum I AM an "old man"! :wave:

Maybe even THE old man.

Classof75 09-08-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 732003)
Maybe even THE old man.

Er, I hope not.

Freebase Dali 09-08-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Classof75 (Post 732064)
Er, I hope not.

Currently active, yes I think so. But Right-Track isn't too far behind you...

(Yea David, that's right... I said it. ;))

Neapolitan 09-09-2009 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius (Post 731380)
Based on what evidence, if you believe something there should be a foundation... I want the meat and potatoes. Its nothing personal its just give me the info... I have heard most of it mind you, however, it all sounds like a bunch of ppl trying to get ABC's ratings up.

I'm looking for evidence base on what others have to present, just because I defended other posters who believe in conspiracies by asking them not to be called "idiots" doesn't mean I have to supply evidences for them to contridict the lunar landing. I am defending their freedom of speech, I am not defending their statements.

cardboard adolescent 09-14-2009 09:40 PM

Conspiracy Theorist Convinces Neil Armstrong Moon Landing Was Faked | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Darkest Hour 09-14-2009 09:44 PM

i read that, and didn't get it.

Janszoon 09-14-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 736152)
i read that, and didn't get it.

Of course you didn't.

Neapolitan 09-14-2009 11:04 PM

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"LEBANON, OHIO—Apollo 11 mission commander and famed astronaut Neil Armstrong shocked reporters at a press conference Monday, announcing he had been convinced that his historic first step on the moon was part of an elaborate hoax orchestrated by the United States government."
You can tell from the first word that article was full of Balogna - Lebanon Bologna.

Yukon Cornelius 09-15-2009 12:27 PM

This is how i see it Guys/Gals... if it were a fake then why not fake apollo 13 as well? 2 is always better than one... or are you going to tell me that this time (Apollo13) they really tried? It all looked the same to me man...

bungalow 09-15-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 736212)
You can tell from the first word that article was full of Balogna - Lebanon Bologna.

You had to get to the first word of the article to tell? I could tell from the link.

Neapolitan 09-16-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalow (Post 736497)
You had to get to the first word of the article to tell? I could tell from the link.

Failed rye humour, it was a play on words "bologna", "Lebanon," ~ Lebanon Bologna

Freebase Dali 09-18-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 737691)
Failed rye humour, it was a play on words "bologna", "Lebanon," ~ Lebanon Bologna

Yeaaaa... about that pun....

Korgüll 05-02-2010 09:48 AM

We landed on the moon. I love reading about conspiracies, but this one was never one I gave into.

Neapolitan 05-02-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Korgüll (Post 861309)
We landed on the moon. I love reading about conspiracies, but this one was never one I gave into.

I just find the conspiracy theory for the first lunar landing a bit intriguing. JFK made a promise that we would land on the moon before the decade (60's) was over and many opponents insist we did not have the technology to do so then. I was always curious what people thought on the subject like why they believe or don't believe, if they don't what evidence influenced their position.

Guybrush 05-05-2010 02:57 AM

This thread is gonna get bumped by people who just want to answer the poll without adding to the discussion for eternity if nothing is done, so I'm closing the poll!

The Monkey 05-13-2010 12:55 PM

It's silly that voting in a poll bumps the thread, I haven't seen that on any other forum.

Dom 05-25-2010 01:51 PM

I believe it was real. I think they put a mirror on the moon in a specific location in order to prove it, so if they shine a laser on the exact location it is reflected. I hope it's real anyway; space exploration is our species only chance to survive.

right-track 05-25-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom (Post 871533)
... space exploration is our species only chance to survive.

...so we can boldly go where no man has fucked up before.

Or, preferably, look after what we already have.

Dom 05-25-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 871546)
...so we can boldly go where no man has fucked up before.

Or, preferably, look after what we already have.

Sooner or later Earth will be hit by another mass extinction. The human species will not survive by staying on Earth. I agree we need to look after what we have, but in the grand scheme of things space exploration is our only hope - assuming we want the species to continue.

Sljslj 05-29-2010 10:57 PM

Obviously it happened. Every "reason" that conspiracy theorists give us for why the landing was fake can be disproven. It's just ridiculous to say that we never landed on the moon.

TheCunningStunt 05-29-2010 11:01 PM

I've never read much into it, I always branded it as a bit silly. The only thing that gets me was that waving flag thing. How can a flag wave on the moon?

If someone answers me that I will be happy and safe in the knowledge that there WAS a moon landing.

Freebase Dali 05-29-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 873311)
I've never read much into it, I always branded it as a bit silly. The only thing that gets me was that waving flag thing. How can a flag wave on the moon?

If someone answers me that I will be happy and safe in the knowledge that there WAS a moon landing.

The flag was apparently made with a bendable rod through the top portion of of the flag fabric so that it would be extended and not sit there limp and indistinguishable. Otherwise you wouldn't see the flag and it would look completely lame. For people who managed to put guys on the moon, you'd think they'd have figured out a way for their flag to be visible for the recording. And you'll also notice that the flag only waved when it was moved, which explains the rest.

TheCunningStunt 05-29-2010 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 873319)
The first mistake was assuming they used a regular, ordinary flag. If they had, it would have been a limp cloth and the colors wouldn't be visible ...kind of a big deal when you're the first folks on the moon... and the moon does have gravity, so with a regular flag, it wouldn't have stuck out at all. Nor would a regular flag be constantly in a waving position on earth. Nor would NASA be dumb enough to stage it and put a blowing fan in front of the flag knowing full well that everyone knew there wasn't an atmosphere or wind on the moon.

The flag was apparently made with a bendable rod through the top portion of of the flag fabric so that it would be extended and not sit there limp and indistinguishable. Otherwise you wouldn't see the flag and it would look completely lame. For people who managed to put guys on the moon, you'd think they'd have figured out a way for their flag to be visible for the recording. And you'll also notice that the flag only waved when it was moved, which explains the rest.

So the way the flag was made is the reason it was waving about, I suppose that's good enough for me. Like you say if they were gonna stage it why would they make it so painfully obvious? It'd be more obvious if the flag was static I guess.. But yeah like I said I've never really entertained the idea or been interested in the idea it was staged, it just seems to ludicrous. But that flag thing always made me wonder. I'm sure there will be a counter argument saying "yeah well if you believe the flag was made differently then you're naive, NASA obviously made a mistake and covered it up with that far fetched excuse that the flag was made differently."

But I'm safe in believing that it DID happen. :)

Freebase Dali 05-29-2010 11:40 PM

It's not even really about the way the flag was made. The rod was just to keep it extended. But the fact that there WAS a rod accounts for the waving motion when the flag was MOVED. If the flag had been waving all by itself with no one around, then it'd be a different story.

TheCunningStunt 05-29-2010 11:41 PM

Well that's good enough for me, poll seems like a pretty open and shut case. I love a good conspiracy, but the key word there is good.

Freebase Dali 05-29-2010 11:50 PM

I like a good conspiracy too, but I like debunking them more often. Or watching/learning the debunking.

I just recently watched a debunking of Zeitgeists religion parallel claims... lol.. wow... I can't believe how utterly false Zeitgeist was. To their credit, they were convincing... but when subjected to actual research, Zeitgeist's religion claims were completely put to shame. Debunks are good because you get new sources and get to compare the two opposing views where you may not have been able to do had you only watched the one biased opinion.

TheCunningStunt 05-29-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 873331)
I like a good conspiracy too, but I like debunking them more often. Or watching/learning the debunking.

I just recently watched a debunking of Zeitgeists religion parallel claims... lol.. wow... I can't believe how utterly false Zeitgeist was. To their credit, they were convincing... but when subjected to actual research, Zeitgeist's religion claims were completely put to shame. Debunks are good because you get new sources and get to compare the two opposing views where you may not have been able to do had you only watched the one biased opinion.

I'm the opposite to you, I like the imagination and romance behind conspiracy theories. The Bemuda triangle eats people and planes and ships! Why debunk that?!

Courtney killed Kurt! Why prove that to be ludicrous? I like the few things that are questionable/up in the air as opposed to the actual facts.

Freebase Dali 05-30-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 873336)
I'm the opposite to you, I like the imagination and romance behind conspiracy theories. The Bemuda triangle eats people and planes and ships! Why debunk that?!

Courtney killed Kurt! Why prove that to be ludicrous? I like the few things that are questionable/up in the air as opposed to the actual facts.

I get that point of view, as I like it too when I'm in the mood for it... but there's just something a little more amazing, to me, about the possibility of truth and knowledge, and the quest for it and the progress that is made to achieve it.
I'm not really a person to just rip the mystery out of everything for the sake of being a grinch... I just think there's more to be learned from what is discovered from previously unknown or assumed occurrences.

TheCunningStunt 05-30-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 873340)
I get that point of view, as I like it too when I'm in the mood for it... but there's just something a little more amazing, to me, about the possibility of truth and knowledge, and the quest for it and the progress that is made to achieve it.
I'm not really a person to just rip the mystery out of everything for the sake of being a grinch... I just think there's more to be learned from what is discovered from previously unknown or assumed occurrences.

Hmm, in some cases yes. Like moon landings and more relevant things. But who killed Kurt?! and Paul McCartney died in 1966. I like the mystery around them.

Like the Paul McCartney one there's 2 pictures of him, 1 before 66 and 1 after. Both with his wife/girlfriend (can't remember who it was) on one picture he was smaller than the other. I like the mystery behind that, even though common sense says - she was wearing different sized heals on each picture.

I'd rather know the nonsense behind things rather than cold hard facts that proves it wrong, even though knowledge and understanding would be useful I just find it too damn interesting to entertain nonsensical ideas rather than the facts.

Freebase Dali 05-30-2010 12:35 AM

I hear ya.
I definitely think things are interesting when there's a proposed mystery. The mystery is intriguing in itself, but the implication of possibility entertains the mind. I like it, but I don't consider it much different than watching a thriller movie. The only difference is the movie ends quickly. With real life conspiracies, it seems to me more like watching the movie half-way and formulating your own opinion and never watching the rest, because your own ending just seems good enough to justify it.
To me, that's more of a quest for entertainment than a quest for knowledge. :)

TheCunningStunt 05-30-2010 12:49 AM

Interesting spin on things, a conspiracy is like a puzzle and you have to invent your own pieces. I'd rather put the puzzle aside and just buy it. Water... that eats people. :bowdown: God I hope that's true, even though if I did some proper research there would be cases of people going through the triangle and lived to tell the tale. Interesting way of looking at a conspiracy nonetheless.

Freebase Dali 05-30-2010 12:52 AM

I have to admit that the Bermuda Triangle thing is completely awesome and I'm rather content just pretending it's demonic or extradimensional or something. lol.


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