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Neapolitan 07-20-2009 07:07 PM

Moon Landing?
 
I was listening to the radio today, I heard something that totally threw me, I couldn't believe. I think they called it the "Moon Landing"??? it's supposed to be like the 40th Anniversery of it. I just can't believe it. People landed on the moon? A person actually walked on the moon? I thought I heard of everything on the History Channel like the Loch Ness Monster, Big Foot, The Chupracobra, Underwater Spaceship out of the Bermuda Triangle, but I never heard of the moon landing :rofl:

So just like any one else whenever something piques my curiosity and I want to learn about something I don't already know, I google it. I thought I would find something to read to find out more about it, but then I saw "Apollo Moon Landing hoax" so I was utterly confused.

So did we land on the moon?

Scarlett O'Hara 07-20-2009 07:29 PM

How would anyone really know? Other than Neil Armstrong. I don't really care whether American's did or not. It's not like much else can be achieved with the moon anyway. Mars however...

Arya Stark 07-20-2009 07:52 PM

My mother was just talking about this.

I don't know how it's possible for people to land on the moon whatever amount of years ago and for them to be unable to achieve the same goal now.

It doesn't make sense to me.

AND they've lost the video? o.O

sweet_nothing 07-20-2009 07:58 PM

Well it is pretty strange that we landed on the moon 40 years ago when we can barley do it today. And modern tech today is so advanced in comparison to that time I mean look a the iphone, and in the 60's they barley had computers. But it doesn't really matter as long as we get the credit and beat those commies, we're still #1 baby.

Freebase Dali 07-20-2009 08:03 PM

omg... not this again. Really? Seriously people? Are we going to do this AGAIN?


If you want to see the hundreds and thousands of photos from all the Apollo missions, including the ones where Buzz and Neil landed on the moon, there's an archive available on the web.
Mind you, it would take you a very long time to go through all of them, but just skip to Apollo 11's page at The Project Apollo Archive

I'm not saying the photos are proof... But if you have any specific "complaints" against the authenticity of the mission, I suggest you first do your own research.





Ok... Since there are still (for some reason) people who think we never landed on the moon... I want each of your (completely borrowed) questions (that you never took the time to research) to be voiced.

If you have any questions you haven't researched yourself, then don't even think about making yourself look stupid enough to have an opinion about them.

Arya Stark 07-20-2009 08:05 PM

Pictures don't do anything for me anymore.

And hey, sometimes I'm ignorant.

I'm allowed to be.

Either way, why aren't we able to do it now?

Freebase Dali 07-20-2009 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 707203)
Pictures don't do anything for me anymore.

And hey, sometimes I'm ignorant.

I'm allowed to be.

Either way, why aren't we able to do it now?


Why the hell would we want to do it now, when we already have before?
What else would we learn from landing and frolicking on the moon's surface other than the fact that we can... Which, I think has already happened.

Arya Stark 07-20-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 707204)
Why the hell would we want to do it now, when we already have before?
What else would we learn from landing and frolicking on the moon's surface other than the fact that we can... Which, I think has already happened.

Because things change.

Freebase Dali 07-20-2009 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 707205)
Because things change.

That makes absolutely no sense.

It's bad enough our tax dollars are being spent on trying to figure out if there's water on Mars... But even NASA has enough sense to know that it would be stupid to send another man to the moon and waste more tax dollars doing what's already been done, just to prove to a bunch of deluded crackpots that no one even takes seriously, that we really can land on the fucking moon.

Shit like these ridiculous conspiracies is COMPLETELY born out of ignorance, and propagated by more ignorance.

Learn something.

Freebase Dali 07-20-2009 08:21 PM

P.S... Neapolitian... I know what you did.
It works too. Fun stuff.

boo boo 07-20-2009 08:26 PM

Everyone knows the moon doesn't actually exist.

It's a government conspiracy.

lucifer_sam 07-20-2009 08:26 PM

i'm confused, where's the "fuck you" option to this poll?

Freebase Dali 07-20-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 707214)
i'm confused, where's the "fuck you" option to this poll?

It's in the form of not answering.

Arya Stark 07-20-2009 08:34 PM

I never said it was a conspiracy, love.

I'm just saying I find it hard to believe.

boo boo 07-20-2009 08:34 PM

We landed on the moon, we're not unable to land there again, with all the probes and sh*t we've been sending off to other planets, are you kidding me?

We've been there, there's no real reason to go back, it's a giant space rock that doesn't really hold much information that we don't already know about.

We've got better things to do, like conquering alien civilizations and globalizing the universe.

Though there is one reason to go back to the moon, and that's colonization of course. That kinda technology may be possible in the near future, who knows? First thing we'll build there is a McDonalds.

Arya Stark 07-20-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 707220)
We landed on the moon, we're not unable to land there again, with all the probes and sh*t we've been sending off to other planets, are you kidding me?

We've been there, there's no real reason to go back, it's a giant space rock that doesn't really hold much information that we don't already know about.

We've got better things to do, like conquering alien civilizations and globalizing the universe.

Though there is one reason to go back to the moon, and that's colonization of course. That kinda technology may be possible in the near future, who knows? First thing we'll build there is a McDonalds.

I don't even know which point you're trying to prove.

lucifer_sam 07-20-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 707219)
I never said it was a conspiracy, love.

I'm just saying I find it hard to believe.

i find it hard to believe you somehow escaped the reins of illiteracy.

Freebase Dali 07-20-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 707219)
I never said it was a conspiracy, love.

I'm just saying I find it hard to believe.



What's so hard to believe about it?

Arya Stark 07-20-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 707223)
i find it hard to believe you somehow escaped the reins of illiteracy.

This is why I try to say as little as possible.

I'm done.

Everyone else is right.

Happy?

Freebase Dali 07-20-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 707227)
This is why I try to say as little as possible.

I'm done.

Everyone else is right.

Happy?

We were happy knowing that, prior to learning your position, there were no people on this board besides Darkest Hour who could be so intensely off.

So really it's all your fault.
:D

Arya Stark 07-20-2009 08:47 PM

*shrugs* It happens.

I'm not much of an argumentative person. I honestly didn't even look into the subject at all and commented on the thread thinking that I had something of intelligence to add.

And, as you so nicely told me, I didn't. =P

Freebase Dali 07-20-2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 707236)
*shrugs* It happens.

I'm not much of an argumentative person. I honestly didn't even look into the subject at all and commented on the thread thinking that I had something of intelligence to add.

And, as you so nicely told me, I didn't. =P


Know something?
I have more respect for you than ever before, because you were just honest about it.

Most people retreat to google and find some quotes so they can defend their honor... You didn't.
That's even better than being right.

Well done.

Arya Stark 07-20-2009 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 707238)
Know something?
I have more respect for you than ever before, because you were just honest about it.

Most people retreat to google and find some quotes so they can defend their honor... You didn't.
That's even better than being right.

Well done.

Heh. Thank you.

khfreek 07-20-2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 707198)
Well it is pretty strange that we landed on the moon 40 years ago when we can barley do it today. And modern tech today is so advanced in comparison to that time I mean look a the iphone, and in the 60's they barley had computers. But it doesn't really matter as long as we get the credit and beat those commies, we're still #1 baby.

I love me some barley :love:

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 07-20-2009 09:15 PM

One of the conspiracie theories is that it was all performed on a sound stage, and you can see the letter 'C' (common on Hollywood props in the '60's.)on the ground and in a crater, but............

if you've ever seen the video, it shows them get out of the spacecraft, and then shows them playfully frollicking around for a few minutes, in a notable absence of Earth's gravity.:usehead: Hollywood can't replicate anti-gravity or one/seventh Earth's gravity.

I mean, the only thing on Earth that can come close to anti-gravity are those cool carnival rides like Gravitron or whatever..........but then the center of gravity is shifted outwards centrifugally, and no longer vertical(clearly not what you see in the vid).........so in other words, the plainfully obvious anti-gravity in that vid is virtually impossible to replicate.......especially in 1969.

This conspiracy theory is too far out there for me.......and that's saying something......
also I have a hard time believing the o.p. hadn't heard of this, or were you taking the piss?

I think I overestimate how important America and its 'achievements' are to other countries:p:

Astronomer 07-21-2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 707202)
omg... not this again. Really? Seriously people? Are we going to do this AGAIN?


If you want to see the hundreds and thousands of photos from all the Apollo missions, including the ones where Buzz and Neil landed on the moon, there's an archive available on the web.
Mind you, it would take you a very long time to go through all of them, but just skip to Apollo 11's page at The Project Apollo Archive

I'm not saying the photos are proof... But if you have any specific "complaints" against the authenticity of the mission, I suggest you first do your own research.





Ok... Since there are still (for some reason) people who think we never landed on the moon... I want each of your (completely borrowed) questions (that you never took the time to research) to be voiced.

If you have any questions you haven't researched yourself, then don't even think about making yourself look stupid enough to have an opinion about them.

I'm with Freebase. Look at all the proof before you decide to make some rash conspiracy-based decision.

There was a period in which I was skeptical about the whole thing as well, coincidentally at the time I was living with my dad who is an astronomer (seriously, he is, his photos of comets are on the net and such.) He rebutted every single piece of 'evidence' I thought I had about it being fake with perfectly believable and scientific explanations. There are countless numbers of photos and videos and discussions on the web that if you really are skeptical I urge you to go through before you make some allegation about the landing being fake.

Here are some examples of rebuttals against moon landing conspiracies: There was no "blast crater" from the spacecraft because the engine was designed to slow the craft down, not blast it off, there were no stars in the background of photos because the aperture of the cameras had to be turned down due to the reflection of the sun off the moon, the flag was waving because there is STILL atmosphere on the moon, and flags still wave in vacuums, there were too sets of shadows in the photos because the moon has TWO light sources: the sun AND earth... etc etc etc.

And to all those who say it was impossible to do it back then because of technology - a lot of NASA's technology and inventions came from military technologies, not technologies that you would see around the house. Back then there certainly was technology advanced enough to perform the moon trip. It just wasn't everyday technology.

Also, going to Mars is a completely different topic. Because the typical time distance when Mars is closest to Earth is approximately a one-and-a-half year trip... more when Mars isn't at its closest to Earth. That's why it is so difficult to achieve it. It's not really comparable to going to the moon.

Scarlett O'Hara 07-21-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 707329)
I'm with Freebase. Look at all the proof before you decide to make some rash conspiracy-based decision.

There was a period in which I was skeptical about the whole thing as well, coincidentally at the time I was living with my dad who is an astronomer (seriously, he is, his photos of comets are on the net and such.) He rebutted every single piece of 'evidence' I thought I had about it being fake with perfectly believable and scientific explanations. There are countless numbers of photos and videos and discussions on the web that if you really are skeptical I urge you to go through before you make some allegation about the landing being fake.

Here are some examples of rebuttals against moon landing conspiracies: There was no "blast crater" from the spacecraft because the engine was designed to slow the craft down, not blast it off, there were no stars in the background of photos because the aperture of the cameras had to be turned down due to the reflection of the sun off the moon, the flag was waving because there is STILL atmosphere on the moon, and flags still wave in vacuums, there were too sets of shadows in the photos because the moon has TWO light sources: the sun AND earth... etc etc etc.

And to all those who say it was impossible to do it back then because of technology - a lot of NASA's technology and inventions came from military technologies, not technologies that you would see around the house. Back then there certainly was technology advanced enough to perform the moon trip. It just wasn't everyday technology.

Also, going to Mars is a completely different topic. Because the typical time distance when Mars is closest to Earth is approximately a one-and-a-half year trip... more when Mars isn't at its closest to Earth. That's why it is so difficult to achieve it. It's not really comparable to going to the moon.

Mars isn't comparable with the moon yes, but it still could be achievable eventually. It's another planet we could potentially pollute right?

Yeah this thread has bombed in my eyes. This arguement has gone on way too long and unless you were actually there then stfu.

boo boo 07-21-2009 02:06 PM

I don't know how we could possibly polute mars, it's not exactly in the best condition as it is.

But eh, it's either it or Venus. At least Mars won't melt our eyeballs off.

Arya Stark 07-21-2009 06:05 PM

Ohh, I just talked to my best friend. He's in intelligence in the Army. And he's all like, "Why the hell would I lie to you? They landed on the moon."

And for some reason, since I really don't care enough, that's good enough for me.

They landed on the moon.

End of discussion.

swim 07-21-2009 06:45 PM

We definitely landed on the moon at some point they put a big reflector up there that you can shoot a high power lazer at.

Neapolitan 07-21-2009 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swim (Post 707644)
We definitely landed on the moon at some point they put a big reflector up there that you can shoot a high power lazer at.


I'm not sure but I think it is spelled "laser." I think a "lazer" is someone from the slacker generation, but I'm not sure. Did you ever see one of those t-shirt that says like "slacker" or "lazer?" I heard the engineer or scientist who built that was called Alan Parson. I think I remember reading something about the Alan Parson's Project, in Scientific American, or some other magazine. But how does that prove we land on the moon, could they drop the big reflector from a lem.

Fruitonica 07-22-2009 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 707526)
I don't know how we could possibly polute mars, it's not exactly in the best condition as it is.

First we terraform it, then we fuck shit up.

cavanherk 07-22-2009 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 707501)
I don't know and neither do you.


I can't see the flag or the footprints from here.

RHCP:

"Space may be the final frontier
But it's made in a Hollywood basement"

Can't say I believe or not, I don't see why not but I find it rediculous that NASA recorded over the original tapes because "there was a tape shortage."

swim 07-22-2009 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 707761)
I'm not sure but I think it is spelled "laser." I think a "lazer" is someone from the slacker generation, but I'm not sure. Did you ever see one of those t-shirt that says like "slacker" or "lazer?" I heard the engineer or scientist who built that was called Alan Parson. I think I remember reading something about the Alan Parson's Project, in Scientific American, or some other magazine. But how does that prove we land on the moon, could they drop the big reflector from a lem.

It's not my fault English doesn't make sense. It makes a z sound so I put a z.

Neapolitan 07-22-2009 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swim (Post 707644)
We definitely landed on the moon at some point they put a big reflector up there that you can shoot a high power lazer at.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swim (Post 707827)
It's not my fault English doesn't make sense. It makes a z sound so I put a z.

I'm not worried about how "laser" soundz or how it's spellt. I was more interested if weather or not you believe if it was possible that those big reflector(s) could had been dropped from a lem? I think I heard something about it but I'm not sure that there were a bunch of tetrahedra. I think they used a tetrahedron shape because there is no wrong side up.

I think it is not conclusive proof there those big reflector(s) place on the moon by human astronaut hands, they could had been tossed from a window of the lem while it was flying over the moon, do you know what I mean?

lucifer_sam 07-22-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swim (Post 707827)
It's not my fault English doesn't make sense. It makes a z sound so I put a z.

it's an acronym for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation.

hence it's not one of those things where there are multiple accepted spellings.

Janszoon 07-22-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 707855)
it's an acronym for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation.

hence it's not one of those things where there are multiple accepted spellings.

Except in places where they spell it "ztimulated".

Sodacake 07-22-2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 707198)
Well it is pretty strange that we landed on the moon 40 years ago when we can barley do it today. And modern tech today is so advanced in comparison to that time I mean look a the iphone, and in the 60's they barley had computers. But it doesn't really matter as long as we get the credit and beat those commies, we're still #1 baby.

It's not that you "can barely do it today", it's that NASA has collected enough samples on the moon to study and it started costing too much sending astronauts to the moon every few years.

Janszoon 07-22-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sodacake (Post 707875)
It's not that you "can barely do it today", it's that NASA has collected enough samples on the moon to study and it started costing too much sending astronauts to the moon every few years.

Exactly.

Stone Birds 07-22-2009 11:51 AM

i don't care so i chose all three


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