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The Boy 09-10-2009 12:04 AM

Will You Receive the Vaccine?
 
I personally do not want the vaccine nor do I intend to be inoculated. I believe this pandemic is false and propaganda is being created in the media to deceive the public in to following government orders like the good little trainer sheep we are. I will not be surprised if the supposed vaccine is more harmful than the supposed swine flu or H1N1 virus. We have been told that this virus contained the genetic elements of four viruses, (I suppose they want to be absolutely sure we'll suffer and/or die from it or fear this strain of flu, but I'm ahead of myself) including North American Mexican Influenza, North American avian influenza, human influenza, and swine influence typical in Europe and Asia. Is it just me or does this mixture sound like some dangerous laboratory concoction/experiment? Real or not sounds quite DEADLY huh? Or they would like you to believe it is, or that it even exists. Now let's consider what the "vaccine" contains squalene and thimerosal (mercury). As you should know, mercury is poison (http://www.idph.state.il.us/envhealt...curyspills.htm) which can cause various health problems. On the other hand, you may not be familiar with squalene. The FDA has never approved of general use of any vaccine containing squalene (http://anabolicminds.com/forum/stero...e-oil-may.html), so why now? Squalene injected into the bloodstream can be extremely harmful (READ PREVIOUS LINK!). Also, do yourself a favor and read up on the original outbreak of swine flu in 1976 and the dangerous results caused by the vaccination.

What you should know is that both the H1N1 virus and the "vaccine" are highly dangerous, so if you fear becoming sick DO NOT RECIEVE THIS VACCINE. Instead take vitamins, eat healthy, keep your immune system up, use Clorox alcohol wipes to sanitize areas and objects so that they are germ free. Do keep in mind the flu and countless other diseases kill and debilitate people each year, so what's so special about this bull****. And the rush to create a vaccine. Why don't they rush and release the cures for cancer and HIV/AIDS. Yes, I'm pretty damn sure they have already discovered those but, why give a cure when the government can reap the benefit of millions of dollars gained each year through the sale of drugs and treatments for those inflicted with illnesses, as well as money donated through benefits for finding a cure. How is that money really used?

Now let's consider the initial reporting on the virus. We were told quite early on that this virus would be most contagious amongst young people, the future of our world. This fact is highly telling considering that young people will want the vaccine as to avoid catching the virus from those they associate with, whether that be in school, at work, or public gathering places frequented by them (clubs, bars, clothing stores, coffee shops, etc.) There also been suggestion that parents must not allow their children to go to school if they are not vaccinated. However, the vaccine may very well be more deadly that the supposed virus. Which means millions of young people will be poisoned from this outrageous concoction the government/CDC are passing off as a vaccine.

To make my final statement, if you didn't already know, we are at the end of times. We have entered the time of revelation in reference to biblical prophecy. Please consider what I have to say. We are coming to the end, and it will not be pretty. There is not going to be that lovely and quite novel idea of the entire earth being destroyed by a giant asteroid and earth blown to bits. These are lies feed to us so that we suspect the end as something coming from a distant in outer space rather than by the mind and hands of man. There will not be some wham-bam destruction of the earth at a single, anonymous moment. That is much too simple and "painless". We will endure much pain and suffering in these final days. Many will go blindly into this path as they have been corrupted, controlled, and conditioned through the lies and deception of the government, the media, and the entertainment industry. I am referring exclusively to the USA but the world has been deceived and manipulated. EVERYONE MUST WAKE UP! We've been asleep for too long and unfortunately most people will not realize what has happed until it is too late, however it is already too late.

Now, if you don't believe the end is coming, consider global warming, the melting ice caps, rising sea levels, enormous amount of hurricanes each year, the death of the honeybees and bats? The end is near! Peace and love to everyone.

ADDITIONAL LINK(S):
“H1N1 Vaccine Contains a Million Times More Squalene Than Anthrax Vaccine….”
http://knowthelies.com/?q=node/4324
“$1000 Per Day Fine And 30 Days In Jail For Refusing Vaccine”
http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archiv...-massachusetts

WWWP 09-10-2009 12:24 AM

The vaccine will turn you into a zombie. Do not take it.

SATCHMO 09-10-2009 12:30 AM

Quote:

To make my final statement, if you didn't already know, we are at the end of times. We have entered the time of revelation in reference to biblical prophecy. Please consider what I have to say. We are coming to the end, and it will not be pretty. There is not going to be that lovely and quite novel idea of the entire earth being destroyed by a giant asteroid and earth blown to bits. These are lies feed to us so that we suspect the end as something coming from a distant in outer space rather than by the mind and hands of man. There will not be some wham-bam destruction of the earth at a single, anonymous moment. That is much too simple and "painless". We will endure much pain and suffering in these final days. Many will go blindly into this path as they have been corrupted, controlled, and conditioned through the lies and deception of the government, the media, and the entertainment industry. I am referring exclusively to the USA but the world has been deceived and manipulated. EVERYONE MUST WAKE UP! We've been asleep for too long and unfortunately most people will not realize what has happed until it is too late, however it is already too late.
Uh.....what?

Guybrush 09-10-2009 01:17 AM

I agree with the non-paranoid bits which was essentially instead of getting the vaccine, you can try and stay healthy with a good diet.

sleepy jack 09-10-2009 10:51 AM

Greatest. Thread. Ever.

FETCHER. 09-10-2009 11:02 AM

i had to force myself to read this. too long!
anyways i actually dont know what to say, who do i believe?
you or the government :laughing:?

LoathsomePete 09-10-2009 11:03 AM

Wow that last paragraph was truly something else...

Anyhow I'm not too worried about the swine flu because I've got a ridiculously high immune system which I'm attributing to my extended outdoor work as a teenager.

FETCHER. 09-10-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 733265)
Wow that last paragraph was truly something else...

Anyhow I'm not too worried about the swine flu because I've got a ridiculously high immune system which I'm attributing to my extended outdoor work as a teenager.

same, ive always been the kind of child who spent most of her life outdoors, climbing trees etc, :laughing:
i dont get illness' much :)

right-track 09-10-2009 11:07 AM

I won't be taking the flu jab either.
I plan on fending off the swine flu with regular bouts of self flagellation to appease God's wrath and by burning fires around my house to ward off the bugs.

LoathsomePete 09-10-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 733269)
I won't be taking the flu jab either.
I plan on fending off the swine flu with regular bouts of self flagellation to appease God's wrath and by burning fires around my house to ward off the bugs.

Be sure to throw in a cross or two just to be safe :laughing:

Guybrush 09-10-2009 11:15 AM

Yeah, I won't be getting the vaccine either. After all, the government only wants to make money by selling it to me and then spend money treating me after it makes me sick again .. ehr .. something like that.

FETCHER. 09-10-2009 11:40 AM

will the vaccination make us sick though or is it all a myth?

Burning Down 09-10-2009 11:43 AM

They don't know what the long-term effects of this vaccine are, as it hasn't been out for that long.

FETCHER. 09-10-2009 11:46 AM

and the shortterm ones are?
i did read this thread its just its so long, i get bored n read quicker.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-10-2009 11:59 AM

Flu vaccine..... pfft.

Bottle of whisky & 3 days in bed is all you need.

music_phantom13 09-10-2009 12:28 PM

I won't get the flu vaccine because I've never gotten a flu vaccine in my life. That was a very long and useless post, by the way. Just so you now, "know" and "now" are two different words with very different meanings.

Barnard17 09-10-2009 01:48 PM

Erm ... what?

The vaccine is used at such a small dosage that it's not going to be dangerous. If you go and get a hundred vaccinations the mercury content might prove a concern, but the point is you get it once and you're done. That's why it's a vaccine. What's special about this virus? The rate it spreads. It's no more deadly to the individual than normal flu but it's much, much more contagious because it's not a virus that our bodies are already used to.

Why is it every three years people decide it's the end times and that the skies about to fall on our heads? Seriously, if it's about to happen there's nothing you can do about it. Get on with your lives and stop bothering everybody else with it.

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Originally Posted by kayleigh. (Post 733297)
and the shortterm ones are?

You get flu-like symptons for a day or two at very worst, usually it's just a sore arm. The way vaccines work is they contain dead or minimal amounts of the virus it combats. The bodies defence system then tries throwing anti-bodies at it until it gets the right one and kills off/does away with the virus cells. Then it stores a memory, as it were, of what that virus is and how to combat it next time it comes into contact with live cells in high amounts (eg you sit on a bus with the person behind you sneezing down your neck). Feeling tired is from energy expenditure of the body devoting effort to producing anti-bodies, and a temperature is also something the body uses to combat a virus. So you might get a bit of this, but it's not incredibly severe and not for very long.

Freebase Dali 09-10-2009 02:15 PM

I got my military shot record out and here's all the vaccinations I was given in a period of six years:

6 anthrax vaccines, 6 flu vaccines, Typhoid, Polio, Hep A, Tetanus, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Meningococcal, Yellow fever, Smallpox, Tuberculosis, and some other ones I can no longer read because of Ink smear.



I um..
am I going to die?

right-track 09-10-2009 02:19 PM

Eventually...yes.

LoathsomePete 09-10-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 733385)
I got my military shot record out and here's all the vaccinations I was given in a period of six years:

6 anthrax vaccines, 6 flu vaccines, Typhoid, Polio, Hep A, Tetanus, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Meningococcal, Yellow fever, Smallpox, Tuberculosis, and some other ones I can no longer read because of Ink smear.



I um..
am I going to die?

No but you will turn into this:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/re...ced_Hunter.jpg

Just a heads up, stay away from Acid Grenade rounds.

sleepy jack 09-10-2009 02:21 PM

I'd still love you Freebator Dali.

Freebase Dali 09-10-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track (Post 733388)
Eventually...yes.

:( So all those injections won't make me immortal? Pshh... that damn lying recruiter. :(


Pete..
That would be kinda cool.


Ethan...
When I become a lizardish gargoyle type beast, I'll make room for you in my human bone nest!

BawmKackio 09-10-2009 02:24 PM

THE BOY!
You're my Music Banter hero man. Not only have you saved me from having to type the same **** you have, but you've nailed it perfectly.

I don't know if I'm completely on board with your end of times ideas but I definitely agree with the propaganda theory you have about the "dreaded swine flu". Not only did they finger Mexico as the unholy birthplace of this "new and extremely powerful" strand of the flu, but the inconsistency they displayed in their "coverage" of the entire thing was at times ****in HILARIOUS.

The economy was taking a header to the ditch, consumer spending was FINALLY down for once meaning that some people were less blinded by the **** storm of technology and consumer products being thrown at them / us on a daily basis to distract us from what's REALLY threatening our entire existence, and essentially I believe that they had to find a way to keep tourism and travel spending restricted to the US... of course not running an admitted communist government over the US citizens there was nothing they could legally do...

...and so instead? - They made the thought of travelling outside the country TERRIFYING as the Swine Flu "spread like wildfire" across the globe. Claiming victims at an "ALARMING RATE".

Meanwhile if any of you have actually looked at the stats, as The Boy touched on - the regular strand of the flu virus and pneumonia together with which we are ALL familiar killed 24,000 people in North America from 2008 - 2009 alone. As of July 2009 the Swine flu death toll was hovering around a reported 700 worldwide, with many of the cases carrying "undetermined factors" as contributors to the deaths.. MEANING that many of those people may have already been ill or dying from another illness, terminal or other when they contracted the flu and their systems could not fight it.

The numbers just don't add up to the panic and you really need to look at what is going on before you rush out and surrender your veins to a government created "vaccine" which AGAIN as The Boy mentioned carries more danger in one vile than the swine flu carries in it's no-holds-barred "terror spree" across the globe.

Oh, and did I forget to mention that the death toll in Mexico at the time of the spread was only around 20.

So the U.S. started pumping millions of dollars into the World Health Organization.
Wait... the US gave millions of dollars to WHO?

upbeat4life 09-10-2009 02:26 PM

I guess I'm the only person who actually did get the vaccine. Personally I'll take two days of arm soreness over the possibility of a week of puking, fever, and diarrhea 100 time out of 100.

right-track 09-10-2009 02:29 PM

You're all wrong.
The Illuminati are behind it all. It's a ploy to have us all injected with a tiny microchip.
They'll own our souls!

LoathsomePete 09-10-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 733408)
You're all wrong.
The Illuminati are behind it all. It's a ploy to have us all injected with a tiny microchip.
They'll own our souls!

He speaks the truth, I mean I heard about it from Zeitgeist and they couldn't possibly be lying

Freebase Dali 09-10-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track (Post 733408)
You're all wrong.
The Illuminati are behind it all. It's a ploy to have us all injected with a tiny microchip.
They'll own our souls!

Mark of the beast.

The evil corporation named Milwaukee's Best (beast) is a front for the whole plan. They've been slowly introducing microbiological nano organisms in their beer in order to subdue the redneck population, and when the 2012 catalyst is upon us, they will be turned into intelligent humans and next of kinfolk, who will have contracted the organisms via sexual contact.
There will be an army, ready to carry out the beasts second phase of global domination.

FETCHER. 09-10-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnard17 (Post 733369)
You get flu-like symptons for a day or two at very worst, usually it's just a sore arm. The way vaccines work is they contain dead or minimal amounts of the virus it combats. The bodies defence system then tries throwing anti-bodies at it until it gets the right one and kills off/does away with the virus cells. Then it stores a memory, as it were, of what that virus is and how to combat it next time it comes into contact with live cells in high amounts (eg you sit on a bus with the person behind you sneezing down your neck). Feeling tired is from energy expenditure of the body devoting effort to producing anti-bodies, and a temperature is also something the body uses to combat a virus. So you might get a bit of this, but it's not incredibly severe and not for very long.

yeah i learned that whole antibody part in school, im smarter than you think! im a biology geek at heart :).
anyways i thought this vaccine made you unwell or something the way ive been reading! the vaccine is basically your bodys primary response so second time round the body knows what to do quicker for when you actually get swine flu. you would have it for less time second time round also.

http://immuneweb.xxmu.edu.cn/Lymphoi.../UntiPCT9.jpeg

;)

sleepy jack 09-10-2009 02:38 PM

So the new world order just text me saying Norsefire is actually to blame for the swine flu guys. We can all relax, the vaccine is legit.

Barnard17 09-10-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BawmKackio (Post 733399)
Meanwhile if any of you have actually looked at the stats, as The Boy touched on - the regular strand of the flu virus and pneumonia together with which we are ALL familiar killed 24,000 people in North America from 2008 - 2009 alone. As of July 2009 the Swine flu death toll was hovering around a reported 700 worldwide,

Sure your point has validity if you ignore the wider picture. Flu is constantly going around, the normal standard streams aren't very contagious because, well, they're constantly going around. Most peoples bodies are already immune to it meaning those at risk at generally the very old with already weak immune systems. Hence "normal" flu as standard has this death count because it's everywhere and it's always there. H1N1 is a new virus. Peoples bodies are not adjusted to capture and contain it naturally because it's not been around for very long. It spreads like wildfire. Yes, it's just normal flu in how much it affects you but it opens the way up for worse things such as pneumonia and even if you do have a decent immune system, because it's a new virus that you won't be prepared for there's a much higher chance that you'll catch it. The reason the death toll hasn't been higher for H1N1 is because Governments, doctors and WHO have done their job properly and contained it (you know, with travel warnings and vaccine) before it got out of hand. You should be thanking them, instead your moronic minds are haring off up the hill creating idiot conspiracy theories. What is wrong with you people?!

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Originally Posted by BawmKackio (Post 733399)
with many of the cases carrying "undetermined factors" as contributors to the deaths.. MEANING that many of those people may have already been ill or dying from another illness, terminal or other when they contracted the flu and their systems could not fight it.

Well that and people who are generally perfectly healthy who caught the flu which opened the way up to worse things. Very rarely do people die from the flu, they lie in bed for a week feeling miserable while their body fights it off. The risk factor of flu is that while your body is busy dealing with it something worse sneaks in while you're immune system is too exhausted to cope with both. Again, the reason H1N1 is more scary is because you're more likely to catch it if you come into contact with it, not because in itself it's intrinsically worse.

right-track 09-10-2009 02:43 PM

^ Trust you to spoil a great thread by being serious.

sleepy jack 09-10-2009 02:44 PM

Who thinks Jesus is going to behead me with a sword for some of the things I've said on musicbanter in the past??

FETCHER. 09-10-2009 02:44 PM

right i am asking this question.
if i have swine flu right now, and havent done anything will i die?
or will it go away like normal flu?
:$

sleepy jack 09-10-2009 02:45 PM

You know how Animal Farm ends?

FETCHER. 09-10-2009 02:46 PM

no :( .. elaborate..

Barnard17 09-10-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by upbeat4life (Post 733403)
I guess I'm the only person who actually did get the vaccine. Personally I'll take two days of arm soreness over the possibility of a week of puking, fever, and diarrhea 100 time out of 100.

I'm probably entitled to it. Last three times I caught the flu it developed into pneumonia and I've been on antibiotics up to a month for it. I'm pretty sure I caught it after Glastonbury though and after the flu was gone my body was only ****ting itself for a week or two with a bad fluidy cough so I didn't bother seeing the doc. So now I've decided I've had it so there's no point in me getting the vaccine.

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Originally Posted by kayleigh. (Post 733417)
yeah i learned that whole antibody part in school, im smarter than you think! im a biology geek at heart :).

:love:

sleepy jack 09-10-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kayleigh. (Post 733441)
no :( .. elaborate..

Well it ends by the pigs turning into humans...It's like that except the opposite happens. You have 4 days. Live them up.

No but seriously just stay hydrated and take it easy. Eat fruits for vitamins and all that good stuff. You'll be fine.

Barnard17 09-10-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track (Post 733432)
^ Trust you to spoil a great thread by being serious.

I haven't a funny bone in my body :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by kayleigh. (Post 733436)
right i am asking this question.
if i have swine flu right now, and havent done anything will i die?
or will it go away like normal flu?
:$

It'll go away like normal flu. It's not more aggressive to the individual, just more likely that the people you spend time around will catch it off you. So if you have flu like symptoms don't visit a friend in hospital but other than that you'll be mostly fine.

Freebase Dali 09-10-2009 02:50 PM

I kinda want to like.. I dunno... get sneezed on by someone with Swine Flu just so I can see if I'll catch it.
I never catch anything. :(

I feel so left out.

FETCHER. 09-10-2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barnard17 (Post 733442)
:love:

:pimp:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barnard17 (Post 733446)
It'll go away like normal flu. It's not more aggressive to the individual, just more likely that the people you spend time around will catch it off you. So if you have flu like symptoms don't visit a friend in hospital but other than that you'll be mostly fine.

ive been convinced i have it. im glad im not going to die now :D, i was having serious thoughts of phoning NHS 24/7 :laughing:


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