Prayers answered? Good Luck? Mind over matter?

Tor_Hershman · 10-30-2010, 12:02 PM

Here's my video talkin' 'bout prayer...well.....if I got the code correct.

Well that didn't work.
Here's the URL.
It's quite a lill' atheistic parody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m6qC6FCiY0

Freebase Dali · 10-30-2010, 03:01 PM

This might help:

~~Dirty~~ · 11-06-2010, 05:36 AM

Prayers do nothing.

I don't believe in a God, but I can see why some people do. But even if you believe in a higher power that created everything, I have no idea how anyone can believe in prayers.

SATCHMO · 11-06-2010, 10:21 AM

Prayer is the manifestation of reality through the setting forth of intention. You do it all day every day, whether you're consciously aware of it or not.

anticipation · 11-06-2010, 01:18 PM

hard work makes its own luck.

CanwllCorfe · 11-14-2010, 09:52 PM

A young blind boy is being tucked into bed by his mother. The mom says, "Now Billy, pray really hard tonight and tomorrow your wish will come true!". Billy says, "Ok mommy" and goes to sleep. The next morning Billy wakes up and screams, "MOMMY! I'm still blind, my wish didn't come true!" The mom answered, "That's because there is no God."

Paedantic Basterd · 11-14-2010, 10:01 PM

Prayer is just another way to focus. There doesn't have to be a god involved.

Freebase Dali · 11-14-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe

A young blind boy is being tucked into bed by his mother. The mom says, "Now Billy, pray really hard tonight and tomorrow your wish will come true!". Billy says, "Ok mommy" and goes to sleep. The next morning Billy wakes up and screams, "MOMMY! I'm still blind, my wish didn't come true!" The mom answered, "That's because there is no God."

She should have told him God is an opthamologist with a really bad meth habit and a shoddy sense of civil duty. Really kick that kid's ass into reality.

**Janszoon** · 11-14-2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe

A young blind boy is being tucked into bed by his mother. The mom says, "Now Billy, pray really hard tonight and tomorrow your wish will come true!". Billy says, "Ok mommy" and goes to sleep. The next morning Billy wakes up and screams, "MOMMY! I'm still blind, my wish didn't come true!" The mom answered, "That's because there is no God."

TheBig3 · 11-15-2010, 08:07 AM

Sometimes you find brilliance in the strangest of places. Some of the best commentary on God I've seen has been from Animated Television.

Lois from Family Guy: "Making fun of Organized Religion is one thing, but we believe in God in this house."

I thought that was something of a bold statement for a show who's base is largely anti-god, and who routinely bashes religion which I'm sure would be often conflated with mean God.

The other (and the best) was from Futurama. I tuned in late so I'm not hip to the details, but Bender somehow ends up floating out in space and ends up stopping at God. God was depicted as what we might typically consider a "galaxy" or at least the image of one. When it spoke different star-like things would enlarge but it was devoid of gender or human features. Its overall point in the show was that doing the right thing means no one notices you've done anything at all. Say what you will, but I loved this representation, and heres my overall position.

With the joke above (which I did laugh at), I think it represents the sentiment many anti-religious folks feel. "If there was a God, why Cancer?"

The assumption here is that if there were a God, and he did love us, why would there be cancer. Well I'm not a Christian, so I don't go with the belief that God necessarily loves us, or that God would have emotions at all, but even if you're Christian, Cancer is just one struggle in a pile of millions. It just seems worse because it can happen to young people and we have walks for it, and idiot celebrities have charities decrying it, but Cancer is inherently no better or worse than a handicap or poverty.

To quote an old folk ballad "Never knew there were worse things than dying."

Niels Bohr once said that "if you can't see God in Science then your definition of God is too small." Its in these fringe comments, to which we can find the large image of things that I came to understand my own position on faith. If you think of Christianity when you think of God, thats your problem, but with all I know, I can't reasonably say that we become dirt when we're dead.

Whether is ****enson's idea that church is found easier in the woods, surrounded by nature, or Churchills ""The destiny of man is not measured by material computation. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals. Theres something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, that, whether we like it or not, spells duty."

I'm not alone in the hatred of organized religion. Inherently, centralized power in an authority that turns lucrative will always be corrupted. But this is most gross because theres something honorable there to be corrupted. I think Christianity if a fraud. I think reading a book to find religion is the essence of anti-religion.

Are prayers answered? Who's to say? I'm sorry if you thought God was a Genie who created you to feed you grapes. Such is not life. To the religions, I'm sure this position is too coarse and unforgivably barren, to the atheists I'm sure I sound brainwashed. Either way, we need to come to grips with a reality that if there were a god up there, he wouldn't be a cartoon, and he wouldn't be our butler.

I don't believe in Hell, or that our actions mean a damn thing on the other side. We can't know anything about it until we get there. Like Northern Vermont. You kinda have to go before you can talk about it.

10-30-2010, 12:02 PM	#61 (permalink)
Tor_Hershman Groupie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 20	Here's my video talkin' 'bout prayer...well.....if I got the code correct. Well that didn't work. Here's the URL. It's quite a lill' atheistic parody. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m6qC6FCiY0 __________________ Advertizing removed by moderator What advertizing? It was ONLY a link to my Blogspot blog and moi ain't sellin' a thing there. Last edited by Tor_Hershman; 10-30-2010 at 12:11 PM. Reason: To fix

11-14-2010, 09:52 PM	#66 (permalink)
CanwllCorfe Quiet Man in the Corner Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pocono Mountains Posts: 2,480	A young blind boy is being tucked into bed by his mother. The mom says, "Now Billy, pray really hard tonight and tomorrow your wish will come true!". Billy says, "Ok mommy" and goes to sleep. The next morning Billy wakes up and screams, "MOMMY! I'm still blind, my wish didn't come true!" The mom answered, "That's because there is no God." __________________ Your eyes were never yet let in to see the majesty and riches of the mind, but dwell in darkness; for your God is blind.

11-15-2010, 08:07 AM	#70 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Sometimes you find brilliance in the strangest of places. Some of the best commentary on God I've seen has been from Animated Television. Lois from Family Guy: "Making fun of Organized Religion is one thing, but we believe in God in this house." I thought that was something of a bold statement for a show who's base is largely anti-god, and who routinely bashes religion which I'm sure would be often conflated with mean God. The other (and the best) was from Futurama. I tuned in late so I'm not hip to the details, but Bender somehow ends up floating out in space and ends up stopping at God. God was depicted as what we might typically consider a "galaxy" or at least the image of one. When it spoke different star-like things would enlarge but it was devoid of gender or human features. Its overall point in the show was that doing the right thing means no one notices you've done anything at all. Say what you will, but I loved this representation, and heres my overall position. With the joke above (which I did laugh at), I think it represents the sentiment many anti-religious folks feel. "If there was a God, why Cancer?" The assumption here is that if there were a God, and he did love us, why would there be cancer. Well I'm not a Christian, so I don't go with the belief that God necessarily loves us, or that God would have emotions at all, but even if you're Christian, Cancer is just one struggle in a pile of millions. It just seems worse because it can happen to young people and we have walks for it, and idiot celebrities have charities decrying it, but Cancer is inherently no better or worse than a handicap or poverty. To quote an old folk ballad "Never knew there were worse things than dying." Niels Bohr once said that "if you can't see God in Science then your definition of God is too small." Its in these fringe comments, to which we can find the large image of things that I came to understand my own position on faith. If you think of Christianity when you think of God, thats your problem, but with all I know, I can't reasonably say that we become dirt when we're dead. Whether is ****enson's idea that church is found easier in the woods, surrounded by nature, or Churchills ""The destiny of man is not measured by material computation. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals. Theres something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, that, whether we like it or not, spells duty." I'm not alone in the hatred of organized religion. Inherently, centralized power in an authority that turns lucrative will always be corrupted. But this is most gross because theres something honorable there to be corrupted. I think Christianity if a fraud. I think reading a book to find religion is the essence of anti-religion. Are prayers answered? Who's to say? I'm sorry if you thought God was a Genie who created you to feed you grapes. Such is not life. To the religions, I'm sure this position is too coarse and unforgivably barren, to the atheists I'm sure I sound brainwashed. Either way, we need to come to grips with a reality that if there were a god up there, he wouldn't be a cartoon, and he wouldn't be our butler. I don't believe in Hell, or that our actions mean a damn thing on the other side. We can't know anything about it until we get there. Like Northern Vermont. You kinda have to go before you can talk about it. __________________ I've moved to a new address

10-30-2010, 03:01 PM	#62 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	This might help:

11-06-2010, 05:36 AM	#63 (permalink)
~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	Prayers do nothing. I don't believe in a God, but I can see why some people do. But even if you believe in a higher power that created everything, I have no idea how anyone can believe in prayers.

11-06-2010, 10:21 AM	#64 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Prayer is the manifestation of reality through the setting forth of intention. You do it all day every day, whether you're consciously aware of it or not.

11-06-2010, 01:18 PM	#65 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,565	hard work makes its own luck.

11-14-2010, 10:01 PM	#67 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Prayer is just another way to focus. There doesn't have to be a god involved.