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djchameleon 05-13-2014 09:25 PM

My point is that they are both bad conditions. I don't even know why you are trying to make it a pissing contest.

butthead aka 216 05-13-2014 09:26 PM

like thats a surprise lol

its just a label anyways. dont feel sorry for yourself ladyislingering

Sansa Stark 05-13-2014 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1449873)
My point is that they are both bad conditions. I don't even know why you are trying to make it a pissing contest.

I just said why in the first post "schizophrenia is sensationalised"

djchameleon 05-13-2014 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1449875)
I just said why in the first post "schizophrenia is sensationalised"

You are trying to make it seem like it isn't that big of a deal just because it gets more exposure.

Surell 05-13-2014 09:50 PM

I mainly wanted to step in on the whole antisocial personality and schizophrenia business, as I remember being fascinated with both when I took a general psych course in high school. The better (though it's really pretty relative in these terms) aspects of schizophrenia is that it can be treated. My girlfriend's mom is schizophrenic but she has treatment for it, and so it can be helped and can be signified so not only doctor's but the patient can understand what they're facing. Antisocial personality disorder, on the other hand, is hard for doctors to identify and hard for the patient to overcome, because it practically consumed their entire character. They're extremely manipulative, and even worse they're often extremely charming in some way or another and being so are extremely apt at getting people to follow their lead. At times they'll claim to see how they hurt people, only using the claim that to keep people off their back, so they fundamentally don't want to change their behavior (unlike schizophrenics whom I imagine would desperately want to escape perpetual hallucination and paranoia). I've also heard they characterize their victims as weak and/or deserving of what they suffered to justify their actions. As I said, because they are essentially indecipherable for diagnosis or treatment and are also a danger (as schizophrenics can certainly be but are treatable and self aware with proper understanding), antisocial personality types seem a much more direct threat to people's welfare. But that's just my perspective, I may be lacking in insight.

As for the thread's actual concern, I don't have any diagnosed disorder. There is alcoholism in my family on both sides though, and so generally habit-inducing or addictive in some regards. I also can be kind of neurotic about people, like being secretly hated or taunted by someone, as well as neurotic in my tendencies, and can be candy ass-ish in some ways (timid, slackerish, unwilling or unmotivated, etc.). I've been working harder recently on many of these things more recently, trying to change up my habits and mindset. So that's something.

ladyislingering 05-13-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1449874)
like thats a surprise lol

its just a label anyways. dont feel sorry for yourself ladyislingering

I don't anymore. I used to, but then I was like "if my brain wants to be an asshole sometimes, then whatever, as long as it's not hurting anyone".

Neapolitan 05-13-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1449859)
schiZophrenia is largely sensationalised in people's minds. it's antisocial personality disorder that's the real **** storm

That's not entirely true, unlike other mental issues, schizophrenia become progressively worse after each schizophrenic episode, and can lead to debilitating state were the person can not recover from - it's pretty serious business.

butthead aka 216 05-13-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1449878)
I don't anymore. I used to, but then I was like "if my brain wants to be an asshole sometimes, then whatever, as long as it's not hurting anyone".

good for u. overcome obstacles and strive for glory everyday

if thats not motivating enough look at this world full of functional and capable ppl who constantly label themselves and look where their lives are. hint - the toilet or gutter

ladyislingering 05-13-2014 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1449888)
good for u. overcome obstacles and strive for glory everyday

if thats not motivating enough look at this world full of functional and capable ppl who constantly label themselves and look where their lives are. hint - the toilet or gutter

Exactly. the more self-aware you are about the weird ways your brain tries to trick you into feeling like you're worthless or too sick to live, the easier it is to cope with it and take care of yourself.

hate paper doll 05-14-2014 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1449855)
I have borderline personality disorder and social anxiety disorder. I have better outward control of both of these things than I used to, but deep down I'm kind of a wreck.


I have BPD too, tons of therapy and behavior modification has helped me be more in control of my emotions, but I still feel fundamentally flawed. I don't really think I'll ever be happy with myself, it bothers me to admit it but I have to be honest.


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