The Disorders and Character Flaws Thread

Kevorkian Logic · 09-01-2010, 09:40 PM

This thread was very interesting for me to read. I do have several medically diagnosed "disorders," but to refer to them as character flaws is somewhat humorous to me. While I am prone to moodiness and impulsive outbursts I do not consider it any part of my personality that is worth dwelling over. Honestly, I find many other people I deal with in day to day situations way more "flawed" than I am, because not of some disorder but simple insecurity. Social interaction I believe causes most of the flaws in personality and only through loving who you are and not believing you are inherently flawed is how you can have effective interpersonal relationships. Disorders where you are prone to getting angry or sad should not effect your life as much as people give it credit for. To really have an happy life I believe you need to surround yourself with people who love you unconditionally and when you experience this love you will find many of the "side-effects" of your disorder to be lifted. Personally, because of the people I have surrounded myself with I no longer even need to be medicated because I am so comfortable in my life and trust those around me so much.

Furthermore most of these understandings people have on this thread seemed to be solely formed from wikipedia, which in no way is an understanding of how it is to live with a disorder or to really know what it is or how it works. I promote understanding and acceptance and I truly feel for those who are still trying to figure out what it all means, but I plea to you in no way believe that it means you are a defect in society. The only defects in society imo are those who only think of themselves no matter whom they hurt.

Kevorkian Logic · 09-01-2010, 09:40 PM

eh, this doesn't make total coherent sense but try to take some points from it.

FETCHER. · 09-02-2010, 05:31 PM

I'm pretty much sure I have something going under the radar, but meh. Who doesn't everyone has a disorder these days.

anti-war94 · 09-03-2010, 10:32 AM

I don't know if could be considered anxiety disorder or not but I get anxious quite often, but it's only because of Tachycardia, cause I get scared.
Other than that, if I have any disorders I don't know about it.
I do think I should go see a therapist, my heart doctor suggested I should go to a therapist sometime.

As for character flaws, don't even get me started on that one. I have too many.

Insane Guest · 09-03-2010, 12:34 PM

I'm just extremely quiet in public, what's that called? And don't say shy cause I know that.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 09-03-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xEMGx

I'm just extremely quiet in public, what's that called? And don't say shy cause I know that.

you're shy. you don't have a "disorder." you can choose to not be shy. have some responsibility, get on with your life.

jackhammer · 09-03-2010, 07:35 PM

I drink too much sometimes when I am down but that is a mechanism and not a disorder.

I have no disorders or medical conditions. It's called life and each and everyone of us goes through it.

A harsh personal trauma is a reasonable excuse for certain behaviour but c'mon. If you haven't been through that then you are just going through life like the rest of us.

We all go through similar emotions unless we visit a shrink and then we can acquire names for the same emotions that we all go through.

Again I have stated that certain things DO happen to people and it is understandable that they feel that way and I respect that. But 80% of us just think too much and are desperate to have an ailment to hide beneath.

I just think people should try to be mentally tougher instead of hiding behind a medical term.

Freebase Dali · 09-03-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I drink too much sometimes when I am down but that is a mechanism and not a disorder.

I have no disorders or medical conditions. It's called life and each and everyone of us goes through it.

A harsh personal trauma is a reasonable excuse for certain behaviour but c'mon. If you haven't been through that then you are just going through life like the rest of us.

We all go through similar emotions unless we visit a shrink and then we can acquire names for the same emotions that we all go through.

Again I have stated that certain things DO happen to people and it is understandable that they feel that way and I respect that. But 80% of us just think too much and are desperate to have an ailment to hide beneath.

I just think people should try to be mentally tougher instead of hiding behind a medical term.

I'm assuming you're not talking about bonafide mental disorders, right?

jackhammer · 09-03-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I'm assuming you're not talking about bonafide mental disorders, right?

I do think that many many people 'assume' disorders instead of facing up to the real world.

Again. I will not negate genuine Mental disorders out of hand but even 50 years ago many were unheard of.

I have been through tons of **** in my life but I will not hide behind a medical term in order for me to function unless it directly impacts upon my life.

There are so many people out there messed up and I feel for them but there are many too who are just down and lack purpose. Life is a crock people. We all have to deal with it.

Freebase Dali · 09-03-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I do think that many many people 'assume' disorders instead of facing up to the real world.

Again. I will not negate genuine Mental disorders out of hand but even 50 years ago many were unheard of.

I have been through tons of **** in my life but I will not hide behind a medical term in order for me to function unless it directly impacts upon my life.

There are so many people out there messed up and I feel for them but there are many too who are just down and lack purpose. Life is a crock people. We all have to deal with it.

I agree in the sense that there are people who tend to use the guise of sickness as a crutch for not being able to cope with life, but if it's actually a physical/chemical problem, there's really not much that can be done about it by will alone. I know you realize that, but you bring up a very interesting question with the statement "even 50 years ago many were unheard of"...
I'm sure you recognize something like paranoid schizophrenia as being an actual disorder. But before it was studied and confirmed as a disorder, I'm pretty sure people thought sufferers were inflicted with demons or something equally ridiculous. The point being, with the changing times, our knowledge grows (or at least changes) and our perspectives will follow suit. While it's convenient to place a solution at the door of issues we try to compartmentalize in the absence of proof, it holds no practical value to the people who do believe they're suffering if they actually happen to be suffering.

09-01-2010, 09:40 PM	#101 (permalink)
Kevorkian Logic Imperfectly Perfect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,290	This thread was very interesting for me to read. I do have several medically diagnosed "disorders," but to refer to them as character flaws is somewhat humorous to me. While I am prone to moodiness and impulsive outbursts I do not consider it any part of my personality that is worth dwelling over. Honestly, I find many other people I deal with in day to day situations way more "flawed" than I am, because not of some disorder but simple insecurity. Social interaction I believe causes most of the flaws in personality and only through loving who you are and not believing you are inherently flawed is how you can have effective interpersonal relationships. Disorders where you are prone to getting angry or sad should not effect your life as much as people give it credit for. To really have an happy life I believe you need to surround yourself with people who love you unconditionally and when you experience this love you will find many of the "side-effects" of your disorder to be lifted. Personally, because of the people I have surrounded myself with I no longer even need to be medicated because I am so comfortable in my life and trust those around me so much. Furthermore most of these understandings people have on this thread seemed to be solely formed from wikipedia, which in no way is an understanding of how it is to live with a disorder or to really know what it is or how it works. I promote understanding and acceptance and I truly feel for those who are still trying to figure out what it all means, but I plea to you in no way believe that it means you are a defect in society. The only defects in society imo are those who only think of themselves no matter whom they hurt. __________________ "it is only through a limitless accumulation of the imperfect that a certain type of perfection can be attained"

09-01-2010, 09:40 PM	#102 (permalink)
Kevorkian Logic Imperfectly Perfect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,290	eh, this doesn't make total coherent sense but try to take some points from it. __________________ "it is only through a limitless accumulation of the imperfect that a certain type of perfection can be attained"

09-03-2010, 10:32 AM	#104 (permalink)
anti-war94 Groupie Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Posts: 38	I don't know if could be considered anxiety disorder or not but I get anxious quite often, but it's only because of Tachycardia, cause I get scared. Other than that, if I have any disorders I don't know about it. I do think I should go see a therapist, my heart doctor suggested I should go to a therapist sometime. As for character flaws, don't even get me started on that one. I have too many. __________________

09-03-2010, 07:35 PM	#107 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I drink too much sometimes when I am down but that is a mechanism and not a disorder. I have no disorders or medical conditions. It's called life and each and everyone of us goes through it. A harsh personal trauma is a reasonable excuse for certain behaviour but c'mon. If you haven't been through that then you are just going through life like the rest of us. We all go through similar emotions unless we visit a shrink and then we can acquire names for the same emotions that we all go through. Again I have stated that certain things DO happen to people and it is understandable that they feel that way and I respect that. But 80% of us just think too much and are desperate to have an ailment to hide beneath. I just think people should try to be mentally tougher instead of hiding behind a medical term. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

09-03-2010, 12:34 PM	#105 (permalink)
Insane Guest Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CA Posts: 1,322	I'm just extremely quiet in public, what's that called? And don't say shy cause I know that.