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OccultHawk 01-28-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2038455)
Do I? Please provide quote.

I think everyone should go to school and i hink everyone should get vaccinated. I dont think the government has the right to force you into either. Im okay with fines and such but physical force is out of the question.

Fines are the same thing unless you don’t have to pay them.

DwnWthVwls 01-28-2019 03:03 PM

I disagree.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2038456)
children should be under the protection of the state from the moment they're born

Maybe. Disregarding the overwhelmed social work problems that already exist, I'd have to think about this one.

windsock 01-28-2019 03:11 PM

Lack of vaccination helps overpopulation, amirite ;)

DwnWthVwls 01-28-2019 03:27 PM

And you think that's equivalent to forcefully injecting you? I don't think they should be able to cuff, but I dont have a problem with them taking your money when you didnt pay the fine. Banks already have systems like this in place with overdrafting fees and such, that don't require force.

DwnWthVwls 01-28-2019 03:32 PM

Vaccines are not necessary medical procedures. Also, if you're vaccinated you don't have much to worry about, they are only hurting each other with their stupid thoughts. It'd be different if vaccinated people were at high risk, and even then I don't think I could get behind forceful injection.

windsock 01-28-2019 03:39 PM

Maybe forceful vaccination for children shouldn't be mandatory but refusal by the parents to vaccinate their children (especially if they're genetically disposed to disease, although ultimately as kids they're inherently vulnerable) should be classified as child abuse.

Correction: it should be child abuse if the child gets sick.

windsock 01-28-2019 03:45 PM

Yeah vaccination isn't exactly invincibility especially when it comes to kids.

DwnWthVwls 01-28-2019 03:50 PM

How do you guys feel about this?
https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...accinate-kids/

windsock 01-28-2019 03:55 PM

First impression: **** IFLS

DwnWthVwls 01-28-2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2038487)
this is only half true

still at risk are children too young to be vaccinated and those with severe immune deficiency

that's why these outbreaks occur not only among the unvaccinated

Yeah, that's fair those cases exist, but I'm still willing to take that trade off.

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2038485)
Maybe forceful vaccination for children shouldn't be mandatory but refusal by the parents to vaccinate their children (especially if they're genetically disposed to disease, although ultimately as kids they're inherently vulnerable) should be classified as child abuse.

Correction: it should be child abuse if the child gets sick.

Why only if? So if you don't feed your kid or if you let them play in traffic that's cool, as long as they don't get hurt?


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