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DwnWthVwls 01-28-2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2038492)
First impression: **** IFLS

Ive never even heard of IFLS. I just recently heard about this vaccine fine and grabbed the first link I saw.

windsock 01-28-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2038493)
Why only if? So if you don't feed your kid or if you let them play in traffic that's cool, as long as they don't get hurt?

I said if because if all anti-vaxxers had to do was not vaccinate their kids to get legal charges, that's basically the same outcome as if there were forced vaccinations- ultimately vaccinating your kids would be mandatory but with just more steps.

I believe in the liberty (however much I may find it retarded) of anti-vaxxers not to undergo vaccination as I support many other liberties of the populous. So if you want to not vaccinate your kid go right ahead (again however much I may find it retarded), but if your child becomes sick and/or infects other children your should be held responsible under the law. That's just my take.

I think your equivalency is a bit loose but for the record I do not think it would be cool to let your children play in traffic. But we're talking specifically legal bindings here so ultimately I have no say in what a parent does with their children, though I still believe they should incur the severe penalty and punishment if and when their child meets their demise.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2038494)
Ive never even heard of IFLS. I just recently heard about this vaccine fine and grabbed the first link I saw.

It was the big, hip science page with obnoxious pseudointellectuals on Facebook a while back. I don't know what it's about know but I certainly haven't lost my disdain from the bygone days.

The Batlord 01-28-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2038513)
I said if because if all anti-vaxxers had to do was not vaccinate their kids to get legal charges, that's basically the same outcome as if there were forced vaccinations- ultimately vaccinating your kids would be mandatory but with just more steps.

I believe in the liberty (however much I may find it retarded) of anti-vaxxers not to undergo vaccination as I support many other liberties of the populous. So if you want to not vaccinate your kid go right ahead (again however much I may find it retarded), but if your child becomes sick and/or infects other children your should be held responsible under the law. That's just my take.

I think your equivalency is a bit loose but for the record I do not think it would be cool to let your children play in traffic. But we're talking specifically legal bindings here so ultimately I have no say in what a parent does with their children, though I still believe they should incur the severe penalty and punishment if and when their child meets their demise.

So you don't think people have the right to make others ill but you do think they have the right to expose them to illness?

windsock 01-28-2019 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2038527)
So you don't think people have the right to make others ill but you do think they have the right to expose them to illness?

I think anti-vax should be actively discouraged, much as it is now, but I don't think it should be legally forbidden. I do think however you should face repercussions if your choices invariably harm your or others' offspring, as I said before.

WWWP 01-28-2019 06:15 PM

At my work we won't serve families that don't vaccinate their children (without a legitimate health concern), and the majority of our schools, public and private, will not accept unvaccinated children. Just today I had to tell a mother she couldn't get childcare funding through us because she refused to vaccinate her kindergartner. She was like "the schools won't take her and daycares won't take her... what am I supposed to do, homeschool her?" No dude the answer is just vaccinate your god damn children.

OccultHawk 01-28-2019 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2038483)
Vaccines are not necessary medical procedures. Also, if you're vaccinated you don't have much to worry about, they are only hurting each other with their stupid thoughts. It'd be different if vaccinated people were at high risk, and even then I don't think I could get behind forceful injection.

Herd immunity, scientist

OccultHawk 01-28-2019 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2038485)
Maybe forceful vaccination for children shouldn't be mandatory but refusal by the parents to vaccinate their children (especially if they're genetically disposed to disease, although ultimately as kids they're inherently vulnerable) should be classified as child abuse.

Correction: it should be child abuse if the child gets sick.

Neglect is abuse

Frownland 01-28-2019 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2038513)
I believe in the liberty (however much I may find it retarded) of anti-vaxxers not to undergo vaccination as I support many other liberties of the populous.

I agree, let's move the compulsion element to the private sector where they can be more effective. Because **** supporting dangerous **** in the vague name of freedom.

OccultHawk 01-28-2019 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2038535)
At my work we won't serve families that don't vaccinate their children (without a legitimate health concern), and the majority of our schools, public and private, will not accept unvaccinated children. Just today I had to tell a mother she couldn't get childcare funding through us because she refused to vaccinate her kindergartner. She was like "the schools won't take her and daycares won't take her... what am I supposed to do, homeschool her?" No dude the answer is just vaccinate your god damn children.

What a stupid ****. Harass her. Find a reason to take her child.

Frownland 01-28-2019 08:23 PM

Lead her on then splash her with red paint at a meeting.


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