Vaccination/Immunization -- Why is there a problem? - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge > Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
Vaccination/Immunization -- Why is there a problem? Vaccination/Immunization -- Why is there a problem?
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
Page 33 of 55 « First 233132 33 343543 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-29-2019, 10:36 AM   #321 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default
Well the problem doesn't so much seem to be food (we got plenty of that just no one cares about giving it to people without shekels in their wallet,) but pollution. Malthus didn't count on pollution as far as I know so that doesn't count. Kind of an academic disagreement but we're still dealing in potential non-issues that are only issues because of capitalism and shortsightedness, not because of incontrovertible food math.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 10:53 AM   #322 (permalink)
one-balled nipple jockey
 
OccultHawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dirty Souf Biatch
Posts: 22,033
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg View Post
Well the problem doesn't so much seem to be food (we got plenty of that just no one cares about giving it to people without shekels in their wallet,) but pollution. Malthus didn't count on pollution as far as I know so that doesn't count. Kind of an academic disagreement but we're still dealing in potential non-issues that are only issues because of capitalism and shortsightedness, not because of incontrovertible food math.
The food math still stands.
__________________

2016 2017 2018 2019 2020

Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion

Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND:

https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html
OccultHawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 11:03 AM   #323 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default
I'm no expert but as far as I know Malthus' projections have been incredibly off and food production has increased far more exponentially than he ever predicted through modern agrigultural technology to the point where it has outpaced population growth.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 11:11 AM   #324 (permalink)
Fck Ths Thngs
 
DwnWthVwls's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,261
Default
At what environmental cost and how sustainable are they?
__________________
I don't got a god complex, you got a simple god...

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I'd vote for Trump
DwnWthVwls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 11:19 AM   #325 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default
Like I said no expert and I'm only really casually disputing a guy whose calculations were from 200 years ago. I certainly don't know what's sustainable given the current rate of technological growth vs. population growth.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 11:33 AM   #326 (permalink)
one-balled nipple jockey
 
OccultHawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dirty Souf Biatch
Posts: 22,033
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg View Post
I'm no expert but as far as I know Malthus' projections have been incredibly off and food production has increased far more exponentially than he ever predicted through modern agrigultural technology to the point where it has outpaced population growth.
Resources are limited. Technology can’t change that. Whatever his numbers were the Malthusian principals are indisputable. Currently we’re depleting renewable resources faster than they’re renewing. Fish. Trees. Arable land. Potable water. Rain forests. Aquifers. And the oil that our agricultural machinery will not run on without. And replacing fossil fuels that hold hundreds of millions years worth of solar energy with alternative energy sources is a Pollyanna fairytale. Our DNA demands we Easter Island ourselves. The premise of Malthusian thought is we’re populating ourselves into starvation and we are.
__________________

2016 2017 2018 2019 2020

Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion

Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND:

https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html
OccultHawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 11:36 AM   #327 (permalink)
one-balled nipple jockey
 
OccultHawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dirty Souf Biatch
Posts: 22,033
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg View Post
Like I said no expert and I'm only really casually disputing a guy whose calculations were from 200 years ago. I certainly don't know what's sustainable given the current rate of technological growth vs. population growth.
Unless we turn ourselves into robots we’re going to need to consume other living organisms (or at least organic matter) to survive.
__________________

2016 2017 2018 2019 2020

Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion

Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND:

https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html
OccultHawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 11:51 AM   #328 (permalink)
Fck Ths Thngs
 
DwnWthVwls's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,261
Default
Go vegan! And be mindful of your carbon footprint and unnecessary consumption of products. Thats all i got.
__________________
I don't got a god complex, you got a simple god...

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I'd vote for Trump
DwnWthVwls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 11:53 AM   #329 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 758
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk
My point is that vaccinations are comparatively as crucial
They also poision to your immune system..... MANY PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THIS AND DONT WANNA HURT THEMSELVES!
Last edited by Dude111; 01-30-2019 at 12:01 AM.
Dude111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2019, 12:07 PM   #330 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk View Post
Resources are limited. Technology can’t change that. Whatever his numbers were the Malthusian principals are indisputable. Currently we’re depleting renewable resources faster than they’re renewing. Fish. Trees. Arable land. Potable water. Rain forests. Aquifers. And the oil that our agricultural machinery will not run on without. And replacing fossil fuels that hold hundreds of millions years worth of solar energy with alternative energy sources is a Pollyanna fairytale. Our DNA demands we Easter Island ourselves. The premise of Malthusian thought is we’re populating ourselves into starvation and we are.
I mean I don't disagree in principle but Malthus is still a major contributor to eugenics and my original pithy but fun point was that Bill Gates' comments could still be interpreted as kinder friendlier eugenics on the down low.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 33 of 55 « First 233132 33 343543 Last »

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Similar Threads


Terms & Privacy - Contact Us - Music Banter - Archive - Top

© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.