Animal Cruelty
 

I feel like there needs to be discussion about this. So many acts of cruelty are placed amongst animals we know and love like cats, dogs, rabbits and so on. People committing these crimes are not get sufficiently punished! What do you guys think about this?

Look at this video, I cried my eyes out from hearing about so many kittens being set on fire. Nothing makes me more angry and upset.



It's about time people/children learn that actions have consequences and the torture and killing of animals is not any different from the mentality of killing humans.

I just recently read about a woman called Cherleynne Cherry who put her flatmates kitten in an oven set to 500 degrees and left it to die. She got one year in prison. Effed up.

That's ****ing disgusting is all I can say. All these stories do is get me extremely pissed off. I just don't understand how people could even do this, it's just terrifying. One year in prison! **** that, send her to an Insane Asylum. Anybody who has the mindset to kill an animal just for the hell of it needs to be kept in a straightjacket.

Not sure what kind of discussion is really to be had, I don't think anyone here support animal cruelty. It's terrible, enough said.

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Burning cats is now the same as killing cows for meat!

How is it different?

In Baltimore city there have been a bunch of kids trapping cats and stoning them to death. It's ****ed up and those kids might eventually grow up to be desensitized murderers and rapists, I'm not too sure what it is that can be done because there are so many other more pressing issues in Baltimore at the moment.

One is for amusement and the other is for sustenance...

Must be a lot harder to figure out than I thought... See, burning a cat is just torturing an animal for the hell of it. Killing a cow for food actually has a beneficial purpose for it.

Beneficial purpose for everyone but the animal. So if beneficial purpose trumped animal life, then who are you to say that the people who torture and kill animals aren't having fun doing it, thus benefiting the awesomeness of their day? Who are you to decide what is beneficial for everyone?
Since we don't have to eat meat to survive, technically, we're just killing animals for the hell of it anyway.

You, sir, are a walking contradiction. I realize most people's morals and ethics will clash against their other personal beliefs at some point, mine included, but what's annoying about you is that you're either too hard-headed to admit it or too ignorant to realize it.

Inquiring minds want to know which it is.

Who am I to say? Umm, just a person with an opinion, as all of us are. Killing a pig or a cow for food is quite different than trapping a cat and taking some gas and a flame to it just for a laugh. I'll make this as clear as possible... I do not support burning kittens but I do not mind killing livestock for their meat.

Wait, I can make this really easy for the rest of the thread.

Why?

(After you say it's your opinion, please leave the thread and find something else to avoid)

Torturing a cat for the lulz is just sadistic. Killing a cow provides delicious and nutritious meat. Cats are pets, cows aren't. See the difference? U mad I have an opinion?

Not mad you have an opinion. It's just hilarious that you can't see how they contradict each other in a fundamental way.

Let's take this one step further. And please actually answer my questions this time. Unless you just wanted to voice your opinion and move on.

1. If cows were pets, would you still eat them? Explain.
2. If someone killed a cat for meat, when there is plenty of beef or other meat around, would you be opposed? Explain.

I would eat cows regardless if people kept them as pets or not. As long as I can buy steaks at the store, I will. I don't know who would kill a cat to eat it. They are so small that I doubt you would even get much meat in the first place. But I personally wouldn't eat cat and I don't see a reason anyone else would if they had delicious beef and other meats around.

Excellent. Now we're getting somewhere.
So you basically view personal preference for delicious beef and other meats as the only reason for not killing other types of animals, correct?
If this is true, then it is reasonable to assume that the animal's feelings or threshold for pain or anything of that nature is of no importance, or at least falls below the nutritional value or taste of said animal, correct?

Ducks are small. Fish are small. Shrimp are small. Baby cows are small. Chickens are small.

Oh wait, pardon me. They're small aside from when they're produced to be so big that their legs can't hold them. Just so you can eat them. Nevermind, I guess they AREN'T small. Just in pain. Normally I won't make people feel bad about eating meat, but your reasoning is so incredibly illogical. I don't even know why anyone tries, to be honest.

There's just no benefit to killing a cat or a dog or something. Of the animals that are killed for food, ideally they would be killed quickly and not tortured, but their death doesn't really matter to me all that much. I just want their meat.

So by your reasoning, the only moral or ethical implications to animal cruelty are based on whether they do something productive with the body afterward, correct?

It's ok, I don't feel bad about it. Some animals are pets, some animals are used for food, many are neither.

You do realise that most meat on the market comes from animals kept in attrocious conditions right? They live in their own ****, have no room to move or be animals and their young often lay their dying. Do you condone this? Yes or No? Because the meat we eat from the supermarket is from these animals. So are the eggs.

For your education:

It's not about that they are used for food, no ones arguing with that, it's how they live to be used as our food which is the problem.

I don't support terrible conditions, but at the same time I feel like people confuse animal living conditions with human living conditions. A lot of animals will roll around in their own **** and sniff each others asses. What is gross to us isn't as gross to them. I'm not going to stop eating meat because of it.

So will a lot of humans.

Situations are different, but generally if an animal is being used for it's meat, I don't care if they die.

Why would you care if animals died when they're not being used for meat? It certainly can't have anything to do with how the animal feels.

Because I don't see a point in just randomly beating a opossum or setting a kitten ablaze.

Nor do I.
But what if the people doing that sort of thing see a point in it? Maybe that's how they have fun?

You don't think they're a little sick for that?

I think they are a lot sick for that

Because they didn't eat it afterward?

Because they are torturing and killing a harmless animal for fun. If you need to do that to have fun, you have a problem.

I'm just trying to understand why you don't think the killing of the animals is the screwed up part. I can sorta relate, because I eat meat myself but I still know that the way that meat dies is equal to torture as well. I can't sit through those videos that people post because, to me, it's animal cruelty whether it's a chicken or a cat. Meat is more of a convenience for me, but I guarantee you if I had to go out and kill it myself, I wouldn't be able to do that unless it was pure survival.

I just think it helps to be honest with yourself about things and look at them in all angles, and not be tied down to a philosophy and way of looking at things simply because you were brought up that way.
The only reason I keep grilling you about this stuff is because it seems apparent that you don't really think past your own opinion on things and that's a sad thing to see.
A lot of bad decisions are made because of that, but to each his own. I know I've been guilty of that before so I'm definitely not preaching.

Being kept in a cage that's too small for you isn't a living condition that animals put themselves in.

Cue picture of a delicious burger?

You've got to think in purely Darwinian terms, it solves all your ethical dilemmas! Meat is not murder, it's simply survival of the fittest! Animals that are too weak to defend themselves must be weeded out of the gene pool!

I would think the advances made by man that Dirty so likes to bring up would save us for being driven solely by survival


but thatz just me dawg

I guess the difference is that when someone tortures an animal its all about acting out and feeling powerful. And that is usually not good to have in a society.

On the other hand most of our legendary heroes are also mass murderers (even the most popular drama on tv now has a serial killer as the hero), armies are a thing of pride and torture of people is more or less acceptable.

So basically while I don't condone the actions of animal abusers I feel that the extreme response many people have towards hurting "cute" little doggies and kittens is way out of propotion to stuff lots of other stuff people. Besides I don't give a second thought before stamping on ****roaches and cats are far worse pests if you think about it...

Rabbit Sitter Hunted | Sankaku Complex

Kitten Stamper Hunted | Sankaku Complex

Proceed with caution, both links are extremely graphic. I can't even watch the the full video in the first link. :(

This reminds me, did you guys get wind of the "puppy throwing" girl? She was all over Facebook for me a couple weeks back.