I didn't understand where you were going with it to be honest.

He's a mental.

I'm calling troll.

I'm not positive but I believe it was.

I never claimed the bible to be scientifically accurate in it's entirety. I just Said it did get a few things right. And don't act like I'm someone who thinks everything in the bible is true. It certainly isnt. I'm no Christian

he made light and dark first before anything

so he made the Sun first

Nope. He divided light from darkness on the first day but he didn't make the sun until the fourth day.

Well how could he do that if there was no sun? Seems like another question of bible interpretation

The implication there is that you're suggesting there was no "light" prior to the sun. I'd imagine that biblically speaking, they'd probably say that he simply harnessed some of the light already in existence (because of his creation, maybe? Or perhaps light predates God. Ooo, ahhh) to create the sun; the sun is not the only star, nor is it the oldest by a long shot.

Kind of playing devil's (God's?) advocate here, because I think the whole thing is shenanigans if taken in a literal sense.

I don't think it is supposed to be taken in a literal sense. I guess there's really no way to tell. There's bound to be some symbolism in there.

at a Catholic class I went to, the tutor said "it's all figurative"

I'm going to agree with Phanastasio here, the sun isn't the only source of light in the universe! Anyway, it seems that all hell has been let loose since I last posted.

If the bible is interpreted absolutely literally, then this will lead to obvious absurdities like creationism.
If you do that, you might as well go "deeper" and interpret the phrase "four corners of the earth" literally, and conclude that the world must be rectangular.

You have no idea how many atheists I've encountered have thought that last point was a damning and conclusive argument not to believe in God.

I was distracted when i made that comment because I was building a gingerbread house, haha. I just slipped a quick comment without putting any thought into it. Probably not a good idea.

You can do a quick google search and find many instances of atheists using that "four corners" verse to disprove the bible. It's pretty funny.

They're so smug about it too. They will always say that if the bible is true, then the earth must be flat. It makes as much sense as interpreting every random metaphor seriously, such as "I've got butterflies in my stomach". It really doesn't mean anything.

It's similar to thinking that the 6 days of genesis were 24 hour days.

i prefer the law that we must eat locusts (somewhere in "Deuteronomy")

And those Christians who hate gay people?

For goodness sake, the verse in Deuteronomy that says a man cannot lie with another man IN THE SAME VERSE says that you shall be stoned to death if you shave your beard off.

They just pick and choose which parts appeal to them.

another one is "circumcision"

shouldn't the fundies have their foreskins off?

I know it isn't funny at all, but look at the first one here:

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-co...roll%20god.png

How have you been here four years less than me and have nearly as many comments? And are all of your previous ones this piss-poor? Pure curiosity.

You can decide for yourself if you like, I don't want to say whether I suck or not:

http://www.musicbanter.com/album-rev...lo-xyloto.html

Here's an old review of mine.

To be fair...

None are that bad.

They can't all be homeruns.

You really are teenaged, aren't you?

Lol. I don't even disagree.

What is my level of observance? I would say I observe a lot of religious people. I mean, they're fucking everywhere.

didn’t think religious people would be so sexually active

What did you think the "be fruitful and multiply" was all about?

I observe that there is no god.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/266...ightning-o.gif

well now that i’m reading between the lines it’s clear that gay orgies are encouraged

Yes.

In really enjoy some religious traditions. Plus religious music can be amazing. Religion inspires some beautiful things, but then there's that other side of the coin.

I believe in God, in a way that most people would identify as Christian. I hesitate to label myself as such, however, because I don't know what people mean or think of when they say "Christian."

I'm not a fundamentalist who believes long hair, rock music, and so on is evil. I'm not an evangelical who wants to spread the good news about Jesus to people who aren't interested. Nor am I a progressive Christian, because I'm not a progressive.

I read the Bible and pray, but not on a schedule or according to any ritual. I don't attend church, because my (diagnosed) PTSD makes that next to impossible. I abhor Christian art both on artistic and theological grounds, for the most part.

If you look at my life, you probably can't tell the difference between me and a non-Christian, because I don't feel the need to wear my religion on my sleeves. You'd have to ask me about my specific beliefs, which I can summarize in very general terms with the following:

I'm happy to tell you my specific beliefs if you ask, but remember, don't ask questions you don't really want the answers to. I also remain skeptical about my beliefs, enough to remain open to civil discussion.

I'm no one's keeper but my own. I don't have to agree with your decisions to let you make them.

I'm 100% atheist, but I respect religious people. If nothing else, I realize that life is hard and that we're all looking for some way to cope. Years back, I used to be way more militant in my atheism, but now I feel like I just want to find a way to let life slide by with minimal friction. I don't believe in an afterlife, but I'm not going to call you a fool for maybe doing so.

Sorry to hear about your PTSD btw. Can't imagine what that's like.

It would be a comfort to believe that there's something better waiting around the bend, but I just can't believe that. I've accepted my mortality. Just trying to use it as a motivation to make the most of my time and be more kind.

lol, id love to read a list of my beliefs as told by elph. I bet you get most of them wrong.

I wear a fetter to remind me I'm a slave. I put it on August 15th and don't plan on ever taking it off.

What follows in this post may trigger some with issues related to abuse.

Thank you for your comment about PTSD. I appreciate the sentiment.

Obviously you and I disagree about the existence of God and much of what follows after, but I don't blame people for their hostility toward Christians. If I'm pushed to label myself, I'll say I'm a Christian who doesn't like Christians.

My PTSD is from child abuse; part of my trauma comes from professing Christians who molested me. I was brainwashed into guilt-based faith, where "if you feel like crap, you're probably saved." I always tried so hard to be good, to do right, and yet I always felt like God was mad at me.

Religion like that is a means to control others, not uplift them, and I have zero tolerance for people who try to peddle that crap in my direction. I really try to be civil when dealing with followers of such religion, but when I run into the leaders who perpetuate that bull****, they tend to get an earful.

:soapbox: :ar_15s: :bonkhead:

Christian here. I only attend church a handful of times per year, such as Christmas and Easter.

What is "middle-of-the-road observance"?
The worship of roadkill?

Color me "flabbergasted"...

Locals flabbergasted after VDOT simply paints over dead raccoon in road