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View Poll Results: Your level of observance?
Non-practicing/secular form of religion 20 43.48%
A little observant 3 6.52%
Middle-of-the-road observance 11 23.91%
Strict adherence to religious rules 4 8.70%
Don't know 8 17.39%
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I tried to commit suicide not because I was forced to attend church, because of more conservative elements in my church, to hide my bisexuality away, and indeed my own personal religiousity meant that there was a huge amount of internal conflict as well as external battles with others in my church group.

I also felt a lot of hostility because I was not content to simply accept what was being taught to me, to simply be spoonfed and recite answers by rote. I asked a lot of questions, did a lot of research and as a result, made a lot of people incresingly angry with me. I also became angry myself because many of my honest questions were being ignored or fluffed by my ministers, fellow worshipers and friends in that church.
I'm sorry to hear that but it's great that you are still alive to post on MB and that you found the strength to carry on.


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In my case, my church lost a minister because of some supposed in-fighting between the two main ministers, and as a result a lot of gossip and taking sides happened, as well as a lot of huddling-in-corners type activity with a lot of whispering behind the scenes between our deacons/elders and yet no-one wanted to tell any of the ordinary everyday members what was happening.
I experienced something like that in the church that my mother used to drag me to and to this day I still don't know what fully happened.


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There's also something in the Bible about God being omnipresent....and a part of God being within us.

EDIT: I know with regard to my sexuality, going from Christianity to Orthodox Judaism seems like a really weird step to take, but I feel that, unlike Christianity, the emphasis on the sexual relationship between man and woman being a GOOD thing means that I can at least for the most part be happy, unlike the Christian attitude which seems to see any sexual relation as something impure or shameful.
I don't know the views/thoughts on sexual orientation within Judaism but there are some Christian denominations that accept all orientations. Catholic is not one of them.
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm sorry to hear that but it's great that you are still alive to post on MB and that you found the strength to carry on.
It's funny, music is probably the one thing that kept me going. No matter what was happening to me, I still had my two basses, an amp and I could still play it.

Writing songs allowed me to have some emotional overspill too...I could write my opinions, feelings and other 'negative' feelings/emotions into something of worth.

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I experienced something like that in the church that my mother used to drag me to and to this day I still don't know what fully happened.
TBH it's probably better not to know...


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I don't know the views/thoughts on sexual orientation within Judaism but there are some Christian denominations that accept all orientations. Catholic is not one of them.
It's heavily dependant on the shul you attend and what country you live in as much as anything. Many Jews, including Orthodoxy, are becoming more and more tolerant towards homosexuality.
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I observe people on the streets threatening me with Hell, and I point and laugh... does that count?

(Not a statement against Christians but I find the whole evangelical megaphone thing ridiculous.)
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I observe people on the streets threatening me with Hell, and I point and laugh... does that count?

(Not a statement against Christians but I find the whole evangelical megaphone thing ridiculous.)
The people who preach on the street like that make Christianity look tacky, in my opinion.
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The people who preach on the street like that make Christianity look tacky, in my opinion.


My old church had a better idea...it held a 'live' question and answer session on a main street in my city.People could come to the mike and ask anything they so chose to ask. Some of the questions asked were genuinely clever and the people answering enjoyed it greatly.
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My old church had a better idea...it held a 'live' question and answer session on a main street in my city.People could come to the mike and ask anything they so chose to ask. Some of the questions asked were genuinely clever and the people answering enjoyed it greatly.
Yeah, but these guys are just being ****heads because Tampa is a sleazy town, and has a massive bar area sort of semi-famous for decadence(by America standards). So they just come out with megaphones and yell "YER GOIN TO HELL!!!" To every single passerby.

I'm not big on the threatening nature.
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My old church had a better idea...it held a 'live' question and answer session on a main street in my city.People could come to the mike and ask anything they so chose to ask. Some of the questions asked were genuinely clever and the people answering enjoyed it greatly.
That sounds pretty cool. As long as it doesn't just degenerate into shouting matches.
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That sounds pretty cool. As long as it doesn't just degenerate into shouting matches.
by the sounds of it, they probably kept it pretty civil.
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That sounds pretty cool. As long as it doesn't just degenerate into shouting matches.

actually it worked incredibly well. Our speakers were specially chosen for their specialisms, including evolutionary science (taken by a biologist member of our church), politics (this was to cover issues such as war and international relations) taken by a professor of political science, Bible history (which is what I covered, covering any questions on Latin/Greek language issues), ethics (represented by a doctor, our main minister and a couple of other people trained in philosophy) and other issues which I now can't remember. The expertise of the speakers often meant people were a lot more respectful and the debate much 'higher' in tone when it was apparent that it wasn't just 'learn-by-rote' apologetics but people who actually knew what they were talking about.

Also, the stewards were strict in sending any troublemakers away before they caused trouble, and also censoring questions so that only sensible questions were addressed.
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