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View Poll Results: Your level of observance?
Non-practicing/secular form of religion 20 43.48%
A little observant 3 6.52%
Middle-of-the-road observance 11 23.91%
Strict adherence to religious rules 4 8.70%
Don't know 8 17.39%
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:23 PM   #271 (permalink)
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it's called having faith you don't have to specifically know he exists. There doesn't need to be evidence provided.
So mainly it's just believing what you're told to believe?
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:36 PM   #272 (permalink)
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So mainly it's just believing what you're told to believe?
I like to think of it as believing what you WANT to believe. You can be told to believe something but ultimately it's up to you to want to believe in it.
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:47 PM   #273 (permalink)
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But that's exactly what faith is-- belief that disregards the application of reason or evidence. Faith is a dangerous concept in all areas of discourse, not just religion
Yeah that's true. I guess it just seems like a lot of people I know who are religious at least have some kind of justifiable reasoning for why they believe in a god, like it's more of a "this is what makes the most sense to me" kind if thinking rather than "this is what my church told me so it must be true." I don't know. Like I said, I'm an atheist and very skeptical, but I can empathize with and understand religious beliefs more when there's something backing it up.
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:58 PM   #274 (permalink)
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I like to think of it as believing what you WANT to believe. You can be told to believe something but ultimately it's up to you to want to believe in it.
I cannot understand how someone can believe in something they can't see or feel?
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Old 05-28-2011, 05:21 PM   #275 (permalink)
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I cannot understand how someone can believe in something they can't see or feel?
Well, neither can I, really, but if someone wants to believe in something that's not tangible, so be it.
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Old 05-28-2011, 05:38 PM   #276 (permalink)
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I agree with you on that. But I just can't wrap my head around it.
What I find even more astonishing though is how some people try to convert people to a certain religion, even though they somehow must have the mental ability to think "I may believe in something, but how do I know it's there?". How can they try and force something so... vague, upon someone else?
I'm sorry if I hurt someone by saying this but... How can some people be so naive to believe in something they don't even see themselves? I believe 'gullible' is the word?
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:40 PM   #277 (permalink)
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I believe in something I can feel. I can feel God. Faith is a test of our love for God.
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:55 PM   #278 (permalink)
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:09 AM   #279 (permalink)
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:09 AM   #280 (permalink)
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Huh. Well played, that's totally an error on my part. It still worries me that people believe in things without ever questioning them or without having any kind of logical (and I use that word loosely) basis for their beliefs though.
I was an atheist for a solid six years. Then I came across some stuff that made me believe in God again. I've more than questioned his existence. And if he doesn't exist then he doesn't, no sweat off my brow. I just prey to whatever divine existence produced this insanely awesome world as often as I remember to. Atheists are far more judgmental than religious follk from what i've seen.
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