Religious people: what is your level of observance?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 05-31-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

Well, yes, if my argument was an accusation of insanity, but you clearly misunderstood. It was more criticizing the validity of perception from an individual viewpoint. Which, by nature, is flawed and biased. Especially if you can back it up with no tangible evidence.

After all, you can't base a trial entirely off of witness testimony. There's always a place for hard evidence, and a 'feeling' presents none.

That could be for anything though. Believing that people and objects exist could all be made up in the mind. It's a bit of a ridiculous argument IMO.

Feelings are evidence. If you haven't felt the feeling I'm talking about you'll have no idea how real it is.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 05-31-2011, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

That could be for anything though. Believing that people and objects exist could all be made up in the mind. It's a bit of a ridiculous argument IMO.

Feelings are evidence. If you haven't felt the feeling I'm talking about you'll have no idea how real it is.

They're not good evidence. A hunch or a theory does not establish a fact. It's a ridiculous concept assuming there is a God because you feel a God. It's how cave men invented Gods in the first place, and science disproves the lacking likelihood of Zues throwing lightning. Even if it's what people at the time 'felt' was a logical solution.

~~Dirty~~ · 05-31-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

That could be for anything though. Believing that people and objects exist could all be made up in the mind. It's a bit of a ridiculous argument IMO.

Feelings are evidence. If you haven't felt the feeling I'm talking about you'll have no idea how real it is.

...but we can see and feel objects. They are tangible things.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-01-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

...but we can see and feel objects. They are tangible things.

Some people disagree:

Solipsism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mr November · 06-01-2011, 12:20 AM

I'm coming in at a random time here, but this is basically the whole "prove that you exist" challenge that your philosophy professor will assign to you.

It's impossible to prove certainly that anything other than possibly your own existence is true. This is because there are so many crazy things which are technically possible.

But we dismiss these things and we live in the world that we observe by the laws and assumptions that have function. When we try to ask questions that are quite possibly impossible to answer, like where does existence/reality/the universe come from, it only makes sense to approach it on the basis of the practical laws a assumptions that we make in ever other thing we do in every day life and to use that as a foundation.

Either that or you can choose to be immobile and wait to starve to death.

~~Dirty~~ · 06-01-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Some people disagree:

Solipsism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...and those people are morons.

crash_override · 06-01-2011, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

...and those people are morons.

You can't say it's not an interesting philosophy though...

View Poll Results: Your level of observance?
Non-practicing/secular form of religion	20	43.48%
A little observant	3	6.52%
Middle-of-the-road observance	11	23.91%
Strict adherence to religious rules	4	8.70%
Don't know	8	17.39%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

06-01-2011, 12:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mr November Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 429	I'm coming in at a random time here, but this is basically the whole "prove that you exist" challenge that your philosophy professor will assign to you. It's impossible to prove certainly that anything other than possibly your own existence is true. This is because there are so many crazy things which are technically possible. But we dismiss these things and we live in the world that we observe by the laws and assumptions that have function. When we try to ask questions that are quite possibly impossible to answer, like where does existence/reality/the universe come from, it only makes sense to approach it on the basis of the practical laws a assumptions that we make in ever other thing we do in every day life and to use that as a foundation. Either that or you can choose to be immobile and wait to starve to death.