black metallists here burn the Quran all the time - it escapes the radar of so-called fundamentalists because Malaysia is mostly a Muslim country

the black metallists only face a stiff fine

I so love you right now

**** religion. Both sides show why it is a problem and honestly I hope they kill each other off.

Have you ever actually read the book or are you just going with what people who have never read it say about the book?

I'd say the latter

That is what I am thinking as well. I am also going to say that the response will be "I have read it", but I highly doubt they have.

Whether Tuna has read the Qur'an or not isn't relevant.

Yes it is especially with such claims.

That was in response to the passage that Vanilla posted, not the entire book. I should've said that in my post. Have you read the book?

And RVCA's right, the killings aren't right whether it suggests so or not in the Qu'ran.

the Quran is basically peaceful for the first 10 surahs because Mohammed was living a Christian life, it only got militant, sexist, even perverted after he decided to live like a warlord

(expects sharp insults from crukster)

Surely the burning of the book doesn't matter- the physical words of the Qurán should be in their hearts, not on paper. Even if a book is destroyed, does that make its message also destroyed? No.

I seirously think that these fundie Christians are little more than the real-life equivalent of internet trolls- they wanted a reaction, they got one.

I should have clarified, I was in a hurry. What I meant to say was, whether Tuna has read the Qur'an or not isn't relevant to his overarching point that it doesn't matter how the Muslims in question were provoked or why they reacted the way they did, their reaction to this situation is simply not justifiable or defensible.

So we should just allow ignorance? No **** it does not jusitfy what they did, but that does not mean his comments ar any less ignorant.

Are you blind or just an obnoxious twat? I explained myself in the next post which you completely ignored. You never answered my question, either.

U mad much brah?

I was pretty sure I answered it when I was on my phone yesterday, but I will answer it right now since your panties are in a twist. Yes I have read it.

all I can garner from all these religious threads is that discussion of religion itself is sowing the seeds of hate

:laughing: Apart from the jokes and ironies (very good, by the way :thumb:), the "robotic" aspect is very interesting. In fact, I'd say it's the heart of the matter. Or the mother of all the matters. Let's say it clear: if in year 2011 there still are millions of people acting mechanically as robots, slaves to a book, unable to take moral decisions by themselves, immerse in an eternal adolescence, then THAT is the real fu**ing problem!!! As Sam Harris rightly says, "The Problem with Islamic Fundamentalism are the Fundamentals of Islam".

From a short-term perspective, and in a purely pragmatic aspect, perhaps we could discuss the advantages or disadvantages of certain minor actions. But those are rare exceptions. We can't renounce to basic principles, such as freedom of expression.

According to the politically-correctness mafia, it is unfair to say that some parts of the globe are more socially-developed than others. But that's the truth. Due to a terrible poverty and a suffocating political and cultural isolation, Afghan people are victims of religious leaders and politicians without scruples.


:laughing: No, actually everything was already perverted from the beginning. It was a typical ascendant criminal career: Once you start with camel smuggling, you may end up founding a religion.

Nah. No problem. If you don't say anything about that bloody motherf***er genocide of Armenians and Kurds named Atatürk, everything is OK. :rolleyes:

wtf? stupidest move ever.

hi im in afghanistan and for fun im going to burn the koran...think!

and now you're banned.

Partially. But you'll recall the Afghani man about five years ago who was almost executed because he converted from Islam to Christianity (apostacy is punishable by death). It was what turned me against trying to form democracies in the middle east back when I was still a neocon. You don't have to be a westerner to be killed for disrespecting Islam.