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Old 04-20-2011, 11:09 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Most definitely. Our galaxy is billions of years old. Earth history only goes back a few thousand years.
Hahaha. No. The Earth is like 5 billion years old, and that statement alone kind of threw a lot of your credibility out the window, not to mention some of the assertions you're making. I'm not convinced one bit by this "proof".

Not to say I don't believe in aliens, but I believe humans have very little if any understanding of them.

Seriously, hollywood movies preparing us?
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:14 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Ancient human beings could not differentiate between Science/God/Religion.
The Greek and Roman "Gods" are almost identical. Same stories, different names.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here. The Romans were very heavily influenced by the Greeks.

While there certainly was a blend of science and religion, how does this mean anything? You had a large portion of the population (Stoics) that believed the universe was part of a single whole and that gods were present in everything. How does that leave anything up to interpretation for aliens?
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Old 04-20-2011, 12:13 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I am 100% serious. How do you think they come up with the ideas for these movies? They are meant to prepare us for something.
The idea for those type of movies originally stemmed from America's response to the spread of communism, and how we could've been invaded by the Soviets. Plus, the concept of extra-terrestrials is natural due to humanity's strong curiosity in the universe.

I definitely believe in other life forms out in the universe, though (the probability of us being the only ones is just too slim). I'll admit, however, that I have doubts about their visitation to our planet...

Video was interesting, but kind of corny.

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There have always been "Gods". Whether Greek, Roman, Norse, Egyptian, Sumerian, etc. What one person calls a "God" could be an ET to someone else.
Or... it could be the psychological need for mankind to want a "fatherly figure" to be looking after them. Of course, if you want to dismiss Freud then go ahead.

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Old 04-20-2011, 12:17 PM   #44 (permalink)
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If movies are indicators of life outside of planet earth, then I'm also expecting invasions of transformers and hobbits.
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I am 100% serious. How do you think they come up with the ideas for these movies? They are meant to prepare us for something.



It's hiding in plain sight. If someone saw something in the sky, they all joke around about how it was just in the movie. They play it off and nobody cares, but its real. Its like brainwashing.
You know how they come up with the ideas for movies? It's a little thing called creativity mixed with imagination. As an adult you may have forgotten about it but it still exists.

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Should this be moved to the Philosophy, etc. section?
Yes that sounds like a good idea.

I'd love to come in contact with an alien but I believe that most of the UFO sightings are from humans piloting those ships and trying to figure out how they work. What happens in Area 51 area is pretty much that. Air Force pilots playing around with spacecrafts. There is also an Area 53 that doesn't get talked much about but it exists and isn't talked about much.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:41 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Lol at invasions from transformers and hobbits. Although transformers are aliens no?

And I think whoever mentioned how terrible most governments are at keeping secrets was on to something. I mean.. there are some people who come out and say they've worked for the military and seen UFOs and stuff - but we just dismiss them as conspiracy theorist...

Actually that didn't strengthen my own position, but I just like playing devil advocate.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:43 PM   #47 (permalink)
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If there is life on other planets, then we should not know about it, because we'd go and do something idiotic like declare war on them or try and kidnap them for our own research, and they'd just up and nuke us.

Honestly, we as a species can't handle that information. If there is life outside of Earth, it hasn't destroyed us yet, so we ought not give it a reason to.
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They're all around us. All of the hollywood blockbuster movies are just trying to acclimate us to these things, so that when they finally make contact we won't be so astounded by them.
Note to self: befriend Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson before the impending invasion.
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-There are on the order of 100,000,000,000 (one hundred billion) galaxies in the universe, as far as our telescopes can detect.
-Some of these galaxies may hold up to 100,000,000,000 stars, but most galaxies probably contain at least 10,000,000,000 (ten billion) stars.
-Young galaxies may not have formed many solar systems yet, while very old galaxies may have very few solar systems left. For the galaxies of middle age, as many as 1/4 of the stars may possess solar systems.

Assuming for practical and computational purposes that 1/3 of galaxies are of "middle age" and full of stars, you get:
(3.33 x 10^10 galaxies) times (1.00 x 10^10 stars) times (1/4) = conservatively and roughly 8.325 x 10^19 stars with solar systems in our universe.

That's 83 billion billion (83 with eighteen zeros after it) other stars with solar systems in the universe. To me, it's a statistical inevitability that we are not the only intelligent life in the universe. Alien life is not something you "believe in", it's pretty much something that exists, but we have yet to discover.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:02 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I don't know man. The government hasn't been able to hide many scandals or inside information, the most distinct example being wiki leaks.

I doubt all governments in countries throughout the world could hide a secret as big and important as contact with alien life.

There would be so many people who could get so famous or so incredibly wealthy by being the first to come forth with even the tiniest bits of info, it seems crazy that nothing like this has occurred.
Hell no. Even if someone found out about it and told people, they wouldn't be taken seriously. Oojay himself was abducted and there are a **** ton of skeptics here who don't believe him. You can't just go to the police or newspaper, they'd just laugh at you. Besides, think of of all of the conspiracy videos online, some of them have to be true, but you don't see the people who posted them becoming wealthy or benefiting from it in any way. I have no doubt that the government could keep it a secret, in fact they don't even have to because we hide it from ourselves.
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