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Old 04-29-2011, 12:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The rich don't even pay taxes. I mean, that is why they have Swiss Bank Accounts, you know.

Really, Rich people are geniuses at tax evasion. I heard at one point the owner of Coca Cola gave himself a 1$ a year wage, and made all of his money of untaxed stock gains(See that's why we have a stock market).

You could abolish income tax for the poor entirely. I mean, after all, if Bill Gates wanted to, he could probably send every citizen in America a thousand dollar check in the mail. Problem is, the sneaky ****s at the top know how to cheat the system. In fact, that's why our economy crashed in the first place.
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Really, Rich people are geniuses at tax evasion. I heard at one point the owner of Coca Cola gave himself a 1$ a year wage, and made all of his money of untaxed stock gains(See that's why we have a stock market).
Steve Jobs does the same thing. He takes a buck for his yearly salary and makes the rest off of the 5-6 million shares he holds in Apple Computers. At the end of 2010, all of those stock holdings were worth approximately $2 billion. Two billion dollars of untaxed revenue!

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You could abolish income tax for the poor entirely. I mean, after all, if Bill Gates wanted to, he could probably send every citizen in America a thousand dollar check in the mail. Problem is, the sneaky ****s at the top know how to cheat the system. In fact, that's why our economy crashed in the first place.
That, and also the fact that American banks are not regulated by the government, so they can do whatever the hell they want when it comes to mortgage rates and investments. Also, the Federal Reserve is separate from the government, almost like a third-party actor, and it doesn't help that interest rates are determined by a non-governmental institution.
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That, and also the fact that American banks are not regulated by the government, so they can do whatever the hell they want when it comes to mortgage rates and investments. Also, the Federal Reserve is separate from the government, almost like a third-party actor, and it doesn't help that interest rates are determined by a non-governmental institution.
I don't actually think that's true.
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That, and also the fact that American banks are not regulated by the government, so they can do whatever the hell they want when it comes to mortgage rates and investments. Also, the Federal Reserve is separate from the government, almost like a third-party actor, and it doesn't help that interest rates are determined by a non-governmental institution.
As Janszoon pointed out, that's simply not true. Well, the banks themselves may be private, but the banking system in which they work is heavily regulated, which is why we're facing such a vast financial crisis.
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I mean, after all, if Bill Gates wanted to, he could probably send every citizen in America a thousand dollar check in the mail. Problem is, the sneaky ****s at the top know how to cheat the system. In fact, that's why our economy crashed in the first place.
Yeah, that sneaky bastard Gates has only donated a few billion bucks so far.
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It's not a knock on Bill Gates. Only trying to illustrate the massive gap between top, and bottom.

As for the annonymous accounts, I do believe they exist. I do believe there is a concept of hiding money away undetected. Anybody who doesn't is naive. I mean, drug lords have to keep their money somewhere.

Besides, even for the open tax evasion, it shows how powerless our ultra-right wing system is to tycoons, really.
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Please try to sway me from the idea of running a flat 7% across the board. The way I see it, if this were implemented we would start pulling out of debt slowley but surely.
Would 7% be the only tax or the only Federal Tax?
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You do realize that we're not talking about dollar bills or gold bars or stuff like that? Transfer money from one acount into another. Done.
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You do realize that we're not talking about dollar bills or gold bars or stuff like that? Transfer money from one acount into another. Done.
And reported by the bank to the government.
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You do realize that we're not talking about dollar bills or gold bars or stuff like that? Transfer money from one acount into another. Done.
Everyone has a paper trail, and if you're going to be making a transfer from one account to another, or even just making a straight cash deposit into your Swiss bank account, there has to be a transfer number involved somewhere.
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