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Old 08-08-2011, 08:03 PM   #111 (permalink)
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God only existed in human form when he was Jesus. It's not like "the Father" ever took the form of mortal flesh. The same goes for the Holy Spirit.

If you read the Bible you see it was actually the Holy Spirit, not the Father, who impregnated Mary, so I don't really see how those two are different. Maybe someone more well-versed in these matters could clarify?
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:32 AM   #112 (permalink)
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the Christian God is a Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost
I know. But as the Holy Ghost was the one who impregnated Mary, wouldn't he be the Father? (Unless the Father gave his sperm to the Holy Ghost, who then knocked up Mary? :O)
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I know. But as the Holy Ghost was the one who impregnated Mary, wouldn't he be the Father? (Unless the Father gave his sperm to the Holy Ghost, who then knocked up Mary? :O)
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:30 PM   #114 (permalink)
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I know. But as the Holy Ghost was the one who impregnated Mary, wouldn't he be the Father? (Unless the Father gave his sperm to the Holy Ghost, who then knocked up Mary? :O)
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If Jesus didn't get DNA from anyone but his mother Mary, he would've been a lady as she would have no Y chromosomes to pass on, only Xs. Also, he might have been haploid then.
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If Jesus didn't get DNA from anyone but his mother Mary, he would've been a lady as she would have no Y chromosomes to pass on, only Xs. Also, he might have been haploid then.
Ah, good point! So we have to assume either half his DNA came right from god's DNA or else god conjured up DNA out of thin air to combine with Mary's DNA.
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This thread got a little more scientific than I expected!
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if it is really true that Jesus had God DNA, then finding an old strand of his hair will let us discover..... the God particle
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:43 PM   #119 (permalink)
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Not to just repeat what others have already said, but most Atheists DO believe that he was an actual person, but they disagree with his divinity.

Theistic views of him differ. Christians consider him the Messiah, and part of the Holy Trinity. Jews view him as one of numerous prophets sent by God, as do Muslims.
I know this was a while ago but as an observant Jew we most certainly do not believe he was any kind of prophet.
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If there really was a magical Jesus did he have special god-DNA or did all his DNA come from Mary? That's what I would like to know.

Also was Jesus physically capable of impregnating a woman? If he did, would his children be 1/4 god?
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