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Scarlett O'Hara 07-07-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1082090)
:stupid:Don't argue semantics just for the hell of it. Giving birth is a medical procedure, thus I posited that employers give medical leave for other medical operations as well, which most of them already do.

Giving birth is how the world expands. It's kind of a big deal. It's not just any old operation.

[MERIT] 07-07-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1082113)
Giving birth is how the world expands. It's kind of a big deal. It's not just any old operation.

Thank you. As a father myself, I'm quite aware that it's kind of a big deal. Just forget I ever posted anything, Jesus f*cking Christ.

djchameleon 08-05-2013 07:16 AM

Sorry, to dig up this old bone but I came across a wealth of information that I thought would be useful in this thread.

It explains how the myth about women not being paid equally is really misinformation being spread and there are other factors to be considered.







This guy comes off as misogynistic with his tone but he makes some pretty valid points that I think everyone should hear.


An interview with the author of "Men On Strike".


Paul Interview with The Amherst Student


Dr. Warren Farrel at the Cato Institute
Talking about the truth behind the pay gap.

Scarlett O'Hara 08-05-2013 02:46 PM

I don't even remember making this! I'm changing the title it sounds awful, of course women deserve equal pay.

butthead aka 216 08-05-2013 07:19 PM

before reading my posts consider my final 20 page undergrad term paper was titled 'feminization of poverty'

i didnt watch the videos or really read too much of this thread. but i will say that i think that wage gap talk is often just feminists talkin outta their asses lmao. a lot of ppl either dont realize or dont care that physically demanding and high injury risk jobs are usually held by men. thats certainly a reason they would get paid more.

actually a lot of problems just occur from divorce. its better now but in past decades women were especially unskilled when a family could live off one income. they would divorce. she would have few skills or certifications and on her own to basically start at nothing alongside a bunch of younger and more qualified ppl. plus child support stuff.

just thoughts im out

djchameleon 08-05-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 216 (Post 1353704)
before reading my posts consider my final 20 page undergrad term paper was titled 'feminization of poverty'

i didnt watch the videos or really read too much of this thread. but i will say that i think that wage gap talk is often just feminists talkin outta their asses lmao. a lot of ppl either dont realize or dont care that physically demanding and high injury risk jobs are usually held by men. thats certainly a reason they would get paid more.

This argument has nothing to do with the fact that sometimes women that have the same job title and are in the same field get paid slightly less. In the first four min video he covers some better reasons for it.

Freebase Dali 08-05-2013 07:40 PM

My boss is in the same field as I am, and KNOWS LESS, and she gets paid almost three times my salary. Who do I complain to for discrimination?

djchameleon 08-05-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1353710)
My boss is in the same field as I am, and KNOWS LESS, and she gets paid almost three times my salary. Who do I complain to for discrimination?

Take it up with HR and they will tell you exactly why you get paid less.

Freebase Dali 08-05-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1353712)
Take it up with HR and they will tell you exactly why you get paid less.

They will tell me that gender has nothing to do with it. I'm at least intelligent enough to know this.

butthead aka 216 08-05-2013 07:45 PM

its still a valid point. i wasnt using that statement to argue for or against the same pay for the same work. moreso differences in things like median pay between sexes

i do think certain qualities are strengths of particular sexes and thats one of the big factors. of course that is general terms and there are exceptions and outliers. but instead of denying that and clamin ppl are sexist for acknowledging it i think its better just to admit and realize it

plus i think the qualities that men excel at over women are usually qualities desired in high paying jobs.


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