Dirty

Dude, it was a huge news story. It was the biggest trial in the last 10 years. Please excuse me for having an opinion on it and not liking the fact that someone who murdered their little kid is free to walk the streets.

Listen, yes the news is a business...Everything is a business. But if millions of people have strong feelings about it, why the hell WOULDN'T it be news. "Hmmm, something tons of people are interested in and feel strongly about. Let's just ignore it completely!" That makes no sense for anybody. Hell if I care if the news stations profit off of it, their job is to give me news and make money. As for receiving a fair trial, I'd say it didn't affect things much considering she actually got acquitted. It was the fairest trial she could have ever dreamed of. She has probably spent the last 3 years googling time-wasters to do in the state penitentiary and watching Shawshank Redemption because I bet she didn't even dream she would get off the hook.

Someone is gonna have to explain all the emotional connection stuff to me. Call me an emo softy, but I feel bad when I hear news of 2 year olds who are killed and dumped in the woods by their mothers. Maybe that's just me . And this is about justice. It's about wanting a murderer to not be free. I don't even watch the news, but I knew about this case, watched parts of the trial, and have a strong opinion about it. I don't even know what you're talking about getting off on all this. On what exacly?

You have one of those "How dare you have a strong opinion on a popular current event, you idiot evil bastard" mindsets that I think is completely lame. I see it from so many people (mainly on facebook) when a bunch of people start commenting and having thoughts on something that's in the news.

The Batlord

Millions of people didn't know about it until it got covered constantly. Because the news media saw a murdered little white girl, and a mother that might have killed her, they turned it into a story because they knew it would get them ratings. KACHING! This was not a story. This was one among thousands of murdered children in this country. But this story just apparently had that hook that the news industry thought would capture people's attention.

That's beside the point. This isn't just about her. This is about every person who gets put on public trial like this.

Really? Cause I haven't seen you weeping over the death of a child here. I've seen you out for this woman's blood. Whether or not this woman fries seems to be your main concern. Not the little girl.


On the mob mentality that ends up with some poor shmuck hanging from a tree.

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Dirty

I really just don't care that they saw it as a chance to make money to be honest with you. I don't control the media. I don't control what news stories are covered by national news channels. I think a huge driving force in the story was that she was partying right after killing her child. I feel bad for any kid that's murdered, but does that mean I should feel bad or feel obligated to search through archives and go post facebook statuses and create message board threads for every single child who dies? Cause I don't.


What else do you want me to post about it? I said I feel bad that she was murdered. You want me to webcam myself crying or something? I don't how to make it any more clear that I feel bad the kid died. This thread was about the trial and I'm responding to it. Casey Anthony definitely killed her kid in my opinion and I think she is a complete piece of shit and hope she lives a terrible life from her until death.

On the mob mentality that ends up with some poor shmuck hanging from a tree.[/QUOTE]

Mob mentality is everywhere, hell this site is a perfect example of it sometimes. If I thought she was innocent, I'd defend my thoughts on it. Because I agree with the majority doesn't mean I have some mob mentality. It's my personal opinion that I formed and I don't care who agrees or disagrees with it.

[MERIT]

Let's play a game called "Really."

Really? Having a strong opinion is helping others profit from the death of a little girl? Really? Agreeing with the majority is tantamount to getting your rocks off? Really?

People who purposely play the devil's advocate just to avoid being in the majority are more annoying that people who jump on the bandwagon of the lynch mob.

The Batlord

Oversimplification. In this case, having a strong opinion on something that does not concern him and that he would have never even heard about if not for the media banging the drum about this like Rush Limbaugh bitching about Obama is indeed helping the media to profit from the death of a little girl.

You like to oversimplify things don't you? When the majority is acting with the same mentality of a lynch mob, then yes, they're getting their rocks off.

Nah. People who jump on the bandwagon of the lynch mob are annoying AND potentially dangerous.

I await your cheap oversimplifications and strawmen.

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Why does the mode by which he became aware of the events have any bearing whatsoever on how he should form his opinion? It doesn't. The fact that he happens to agree with the majrity of those who publicy voice their opinions is in no way his fault, nor should it discount his feelings toward the situation, nor anyone else's. And how is he, or any other person voicing their opinion, helping the media profit from her death? I have never once seen Dirty on Fox News spewing hate, nor at Barnes & Noble hocking a book about the murder. You say I "oversimplify" things, you can't see the forest for the trees man. The only people profiting from this are the lawyers and the jurors (who will write tell-all books). People like Nancy Grace and Jane Valez-Mitchell would get paid no matter what they talk about on their shows, so your argument is moot on that front.

Don't tell me that I "oversimplify" things just because we have differing opinions. If you want to talk to me like I'm an idiot, then I will start to do the same. Mkay? kay. "Oversimplifying" would be more like relegating anyone who thinks that she is guilty into being a "lynch mob," wouldn't it? It would.

Pfft.

The Batlord

I'm not saying whether or not he should believe that Casey Anthony is guilty, I'm saying that this media led witch hunt (whether it's justifiable to demonize this girl or not) is an excuse to get people to yell and be angry and get their blood pressure up in an irrational frenzy of mob hatred.

Every time you watch a Dateline special or a special news report or "whatever" you are telling the media that if they want ratings and add revenue they should continue to broadcast this case. They know that this is the kind of case that will get them ratings and add revenue, being a case of a murdered white girl and an "evil" mother. As terrible as this case is, it is not the only terrible case in America, but it has everything the news media knows will tug on the people's heart strings, so they are using it.

If the public was really as concerned as they appear to be about these things, they would actually do something about it (give to a charity for child abuse, start a neighborhood watch, actually pay more attention to their kids, or something). But they do not, because what they really want is not to actually "do" something, they just want to get their adrenaline pumping and get angry and have people see just how much they care about it.

There are more pundits and journalists than you can shake a stick at. If they do not find something that grabs the public's attention, someone else will. So, no they would not "get paid no matter what they talk about on their shows", they would get cancelled because no one would care.


If your argument sucks don't expect me to sugar coat my responses to make you feel better. I would expect you to give me the same courtesy, otherwise I'd be liable to think my bad arguments had weight that they don't have and just keep on doing it. A little bit of irritation and humiliation is better than continuing to sound like an idiot.

Note: I'm not saying you sound like an idiot, I'm just speaking generally.

I guess it would be annoying for me to tell you that this is a strawman? Oh well. Just thinking that she's guilty is not being a lynch mob. I think she's probably guilty of something, but I'm not shooting off at the mouth about how she should fry.

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Debate is fine people but let's please refrain from insulting each other. Attack the argument, not the person.

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Sorry Jansz.. your right. And I apologize to all other members and Mods that have posted in this thread as well. I hope I didn't insult you Dirty, that was not my intent. I should have focused my reply to the main subject at hand.

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I think Janz was referring to me [insult removed]