Mykonos

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Yep, there can be some pretty horrifying consequences. But female circumsicion... There's not even an illusion of a benefit to that. It's inhumane.

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Janszoon

I agree.

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Howard the Duck

not really

there seems to be some benefits to male circumcision - hygiene issues - you can say it's easy to clean, but some dudes still have lots of knob cheese

there are no benefits to female circumcision

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Janszoon

I'm willing to bet the people who practice it would disagree. They undoubtedly think it has benefits because their culture insists it does, similar to the people who favor male circumcision.

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Mykonos

I don't even have a vagina, but reading that article Tore linked makes me feel their pain down under. Who the bloody **** thought it was a good idea to pull out a baby girl's clitoris?

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Janszoon

This guy, or so they say:

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lucifer_sam

Medical malpractice is not just cause for dismissal. From what I hear, most anecdotal evidence favors supporting circumcision as a preventative practice. A friend I had in elementary school was circumcised as a child to stem the flow of urinary tract infections he kept getting. Though I cannot speak to the efficacy of circumcision, I have never had a UTI or STI; whether this makes me the rule or the exception, I do not know. There are definitely advantages to being circumcised, though they are probably not significant enough to warrant its global implementation as a preventative practice.

And I completely agree, but "female circumcision" is a misnomer, especially when the goal is to reduce or eliminate sexual function of the erectile tissue. Calling it "circumcision" is a blanket propaganda tactic to have it accepted in the medical community -- almost no Western doctors will perform the procedure, which has paved the way for some nasty cases of child abuse. While there is no erectile tissue in the foreskin, the removal of part of the clitoris deprives a female of the most sensitive sexual organ of the female body, for which there is NO MEDICAL OR RELIGIOUS JUSTIFICATION.

What I would like to know is are there any people who were sexually active prior to circumcision that can reflect on how sex changed for them? These are the only people who can have subjective knowledge of both sides of the argument (objective knowledge, in this situation, is indeterminate).

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lucifer_sam

Nope.

Female "circumcision" is never mentioned in the Qur'an. It's a practice that was established by men, for men, so that men have their consciences assured when virginity needs established. There is no religious justification for that rite whatsoever.

Even most Muslims don't practice it.

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Howard the Duck

look, man, do you even know what procedures are involved?

male circumcision is just removing a useless piece of skin that sheathes the head

female "circumcision" involves removing the clitoris entirely, which is a bit like cutting off the shaft of the penis

2 totally different things

please do get your facts right

some men have circumcision even when there's no religion involved

no woman would have "circumcision" for the sake of science, unless there's cancer of the clitoris

edit:- my father had circumcision because the foreskin was actually inhibiting his erectile muscles

i had friends who are circumcised purely because of hygiene and feel, who are neither Muslims nor Jews, as doome guys on this board

and about masturbation, it doesn't make them any less horny, in fact, my Muslim friends learn to wank earlier than me, purely because of applying soap on their penis and as it's more sensitive, masturbate at an earlier age BECAUSE of circumcision

female "circumcision" is practised here, but only to the extent of taking a "nick" on their clitoris, which again, also makes the Muslim girls hornier, and is not the total mutilation practised in the fundamentalist countries

can you see now how i can be indifferent about one, and against the other?

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midnight rain

I can only speak for myself but I don't need any lubricant, and I've done it up to four times in one day before. Ok too much info there but thought I should explain that one.


This. Would like to hear from someone who's experienced both 'sides' of it.