The Batlord

Nope. I'm just as in thrall to the evils of Farmfresh as anyone else. I'm too lazy to be a survivalist unfortunately.

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lucifer_sam

Ah. See, this is a grave misconception. I might have erred in using the word "state" to describe it, because a truly Marxist community would have no centralized government, and absolutely no authoritarian control. Communism has been unfortunately tied inexorably to authoritarianism because revolutionary communism establishes a new sociopolitical hierarchy; communism in the purest sense is a teleological conclusion to the development of wealth (viz. freedom in Hegelian terms).

Feudalism -> Industrialism/Capitalism -> [Socialism] -> Communism

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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

I am very left wing, and for elements of socialism/communism. But, I feel pure communism is naive. It entrusts a communal rule, which entrusts people to get along selfishly for their own betterment.

Which, frankly, doesn't work. What happens then is for the four out of five guys/gals who might be getting along swell(and that's an optimistic sample itself), there's one who will break the rules, and takes over...

Then again the Republic has the EXACT same problem, it's just more gradual. If you don't believe me check into the name: Hitler, Adolph, or further into the concept of a 30 day marshal law.

I however would love to live in a state that has:

A) Free education(no financial aid as it's just a way for bankers to siphon money from the government to person to bank to government.)

B) Free transportation.

C) Free standardized housing.

D) An organized, and systematic employment system(I volley for forcing all jobs under 12$ to forfeit their application system to the government.). one of which would guarantee employment to people applying rather than weak substitutes like unemployment insurance.

E) Cheap healthcare/insurance. (Plus, the illegalization of Religious, and private hospitals).

F) An active non-apathetic government that utilizes common tasks of improving cities, transportation, etc. Filling in the job gaps with productive mutually life increasing means.

G) A gap on the military as it's being misused(as in, limited membership), is underfunded. There are too many soldiers, and too many people signing up for the economic benefits. Perhaps if the actual internal employment system was as open, focused, and productive we may have a very stable, productive economy.

Some of these values may be construed as very left-wing, or communist, so I suppose I'd like a variation, but feel the full elimination of property ownership is extreme, and unrealistic.

P.S. Occupy is a ****ing joke, and has accomplished nothing. It's nothing more than a ton of upper middle class university students(future business class) indulging in vanity protest hipster retroism.

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Zaqarbal

Marx was dialectically sodomized by marginalism. The most intelligent left-wingers (the real leftists, from my personal point of view) of the time, like Eduard Bernstein, realized the truth and they looked for better ways of political action.

Marx, as an economist, is nothing. Forget him. The real reference is John Maynard Keynes, and, in certain aspects, John Stuart Mill.

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The Monkey

When East Germany was turned communist in the 1940s it was far more industrialized than the UK or Germany was in the 1840s. I guess though you could argue that in the East German case the communism was forced upon the country by an external power rather than rising up within itself.

Anyway, my feelings towards communism is that any single concentration of power, such as that of the communist parties in all communist revolutions to date, will almost inevitably lead to corruption. The only exception to this rule is probably the Paris Commune of 1871, but since it lasted for just a short time, it's hard to analyse its potential for success. But that specific case was closer to the anarchism of Mikhail Bakunin than the communism of Karl Marx, so maybe it's not relevant to compare to the other revolutions.

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hip hop bunny hop

Guh. This is a prime example of why Communism disgusts me so thoroughly.

Whether you're talking Leninists or Anarchists - they are all obsessed with ideological purity. The level of dogma present is just jaw dropping....



Even if we ignore this tendency on the micro-level, it's frequency on the national level is jaw dropping - trotsky & stalin, tito & stalin, sino-soviet split, sino-albanian split, the gang of four, etc....

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lucifer_sam

Could you expound upon this a little more? I'm fairly competent with Marx's dialectic progression but a little shaky on the economic precepts behind it. The 1844 Manuscripts show Marx's dialectic but not much beyond that.

Which is probably why communism hasn't worked that well in the past...ideologues and philosophers writing economic law sounds absolutely terrifying to me.

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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

...That's one of the most completely random out of context youtube clips I've ever seen in my life.

The Batlord

Especially when you consider the split the Republican party he seems to love so much is undergoing it's own split as we speak.

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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

Yes, but the Christian Identity League might just mend ways with the KKK!