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Engine 12-05-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 1128419)
I'm not being snarky or silly here, I want some people to step up and defend it for what it actually is.

I'm done projecting. :)

You should say exactly what you think it "actually is" then. You're obviously opposed to it? ThePhantasio's response gives some defense. I'll give some more (albeit vaguely) by saying that a good number of human brains just don't benefit the well-being of their accompanied body very well and sometimes psychiatric drugs make them work better. Are you gonna go Scientologist on us and say otherwise?

Janszoon 12-05-2011 08:29 PM

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Engine 12-05-2011 08:31 PM

Stop giving out lucifer_sam's personal info.

lucifer_sam 12-05-2011 08:35 PM

Nope, not remotely in the slightest. Just curious how other people perceive "disordered" minds.

I actually harbor much of the same sentiment as ThePhanastasio, but I've come to recognize that it's just laziness on behalf of the individual. The best psychiatrist I ever talked to equipped me with the tools to get my shit together by IGNORING ME.

Give a man a fish and he never learns how to wipe the shit off his shoes.

lucifer_sam 12-05-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1128425)

lolololol

Don't worry my manifesto is all open sourced.

Thom Yorke 12-05-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 1128427)
Nope, not remotely in the slightest. Just curious how other people perceive "disordered" minds.

I actually harbor much of the same sentiment as ThePhanastasio, but I've come to recognize that it's just laziness on behalf of the individual. The best psychiatrist I ever talked to equipped me with the tools to get my shit together by IGNORING ME.

Give a man a fish and he never learns how to wipe the shit off his shoes.

You can't make that assumption just based on your own experiences. You seem like a smart guy; not everyone can deal with things on their own. Everyone responds differently and often times the case is a chemical imbalance in the brain that can be greatly helped by drugs, or can be greatly helped through therapy.

lucifer_sam 12-05-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thom Yorke (Post 1128434)
You can't make that assumption just based on your own experiences. You seem like a smart guy; not everyone can deal with things on their own. Everyone responds differently and often times the case is a chemical imbalance in the brain that can be greatly helped by drugs, or can be greatly helped through therapy.

duh.

Thom Yorke 12-05-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 1128463)
duh.

What point are you trying to make in this thread?

SATCHMO 12-05-2011 10:53 PM

Like a lot of allopathic medicine, Psychiatry seems to be aimed at eradicating the symptom rather than examining the root cause of certain disorders. We have a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry that seems to be getting rich off the fact that most would rather take a pill and manipulate their neurotransmitters than to make an effort to change their lifestyle in a positive matter, which usually does much better in addressing the root cause of whatever perceived disorder they're experiencing in the first place.

Thom Yorke 12-05-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 1128465)
Like a lot of allopathic medicine, Psychiatry seems to be aimed at eradicating the symptom rather than examining the root cause of certain disorders. We have a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry that seems to be getting rich off the fact that most would rather take a pill and manipulate their neurotransmitters than to make an effort to change their lifestyle in a positive matter, which usually does much better in addressing the root cause of whatever perceived disorder they're experiencing in the first place.

Do you think some/most/all disorders have root causes that can be treated with therapy/lifestyle changes though? I don't think your last statement can be applied broadly.


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