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Old 12-18-2011, 06:55 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I would not have taken you to be a Christian.

I think the religion I like the most is Buddhism. Other than that, I've taken some interest in Gnostic Christianity.
Haha... My cousin thinks exactly that!

He's spent half his life writing books and making videos on it!

And he has an incredible beard...
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:52 AM   #102 (permalink)
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I'm mostly agnostic and undecided towards this kind of thing. But I don't believe that life is just a pointless act of chance. And I don't believe in the traditional view of god. Many people believe that god created us in his image, therefore he looks like us. I don't believe that a man in the sky created the universe - if that's what Christians think.

Yes, but many scientists seem to be afraid to speak out against it and other popular ideas, while others aren't afraid to question it, like Roger Penrose.
That's the belief of more than Christian thought. No scripture backs this doctrine. It is more of a 'heavens and earth' kind of misinterpretation.

For example. If we use a 'literal' translation. Gen 1 looks more like this.

1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth --

Bereshiet. how can they censor that? I added the 'e', and, it is not to be confused with bear s**t, and, actually does not exactly translate to 'in the beginning'. It literally translates 'in the heads of'

Elohim. the gods, or more accurately 'the mighty ones'. Sumerian plural for El. The mighty one. It's justified somehow to be singular, but, nope. It is plural.

god is also more accurately might mean 'voice'. or, 'voices'.

So, "in the heads the voices of the mighty ones prepared the skys and the land."

2 the earth has existed waste and void, and darkness is on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,

So. "formless and void is actually the Greek term called 'Chaos'. And, Chaos literally means 'the abyss'.

And, 'the deep' is more properly translated to mean 'the bottomless pit'

So, the land has existed as the abyss, and darkness is on the face of the bottomless pit. Notice the present tense use of the word 'is'.

and, the Spirit of God 'fluttered' over the face of the Spiritual waters, and said "let light be"?, and 'light is'.

This is the end of the book, not the beginning.

"Have you found the end that you are looking for the beginning? You see, the beginning is where the end will be"

Jesus was a heck of a 'Spirit of prophecy' He nailed them all. And, He was not all hugs and kisses, so, be careful in choosing a religion to follow, instead of following after Truth.

Might consider checking out all the books. It's scattered everywhere, yet, no one can seem to see it.

Hope I don't sound too 'religious', in addressing this 'cough cough'.

We're in heaven guys. This is it. We have to crawl our way out, not ascend anywhere but, right back here to our heaven and earth.

And, when we create images, do we create them to look like us, or possibly something 'according to our likeness of what we see'?

Providence is pure Spirit. Unfathomable, Incomprehensible, and certainly unnameable. The Name above all names. Those who have it, know it, but never speak it. Those who do not have it, do not know it.

I've preached enough. A new foundation for us to use as a guide in creating our own kingdom within. I hope so, or, we are stuck here for the long haul.

peace I hope the coughs get better. It's flu season here.

Religion is not evil. We only need one, however. And, be able to absolutely reason our Faith with science.

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I'll just start by stating my own position on this matter. I am a deist. However, i don't subscribe to conventional institutionalised religions and i am a Gnostic Christian, believing instead in an impartial chaotic entity, who has already set the universe in motion and has already fixed a linear space-time continuum for all of us, including aliens, if that may be the case.

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I think that all life is predestined, and freewill is illusory.
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I would bet money on that as being fact.

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I do, however, believe in judgment after death, anyway, and all that Jesus can do is barter on your behalf, like a lawyer plea-bargaining.
Based on personal experience involving what is referred to as astral projection. I was literally yanked into what I saw as outer space, and this was the question I was posed with.

"Steve, you have existed in everyone in history, where would you like to go?

If this happens when you pass, do not say what I did. I said, "I want to go back and be Jesus again when He was crucified"

NO! You can't go there. It did not happen. It did not happen that way! Something is wrong with the story.

Immediately, I was left there suspended in outer darkness, staring at this planet totally engulfed in flames; with the notion that whatever presence was with me was leaving, and leaving me there for eternity. It is misery multiplied to infinity. The last thing I heard was 'you have to be a martyr again'.

I was strapped to a hospital bed, and picked myself up with the bed, and ran at three cops shouting 'you have to kill me'!

I came to about 4 days later, and this cop came up to me, and said it was the most bizarre thing he ever saw. He told me it took three cops to subdue me, with a hospital bed strapped on my back.

That was some information I needed to see I hope, as I was never really scared afterward. I have experienced that feeling three times total. It is a long story, but, I would not suggest mentioning the name Jesus as any sort of defense attorney. It is more like a prosecutor. Trust me.

I still stand by His Word, and will never deny His Faith, or His message that exists more so in the books of the heretics, than in the redundant synoptics. I would suggest looking at the Nag hammadi library, at gnosis.org, and checking into His Word in the various other Gospels.

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I have no idea where i'm going to end up when i die, may it be hell, purgatory, heaven or limbo, but i do have a pseudo-scientific notion that i can guide my consciousness, that remains after death, not in the form of a soul, but perhaps iota packets of thought and place such thoughts into a recepient lifeform on another planet, that may resemble such conditions that hell, heaven, purgatory or limbo is portrayed.
Nope. Sorry to say, but, you will probably be coming back. But, depending on what you learn in this life carries over as well, as long as your thoughts, Words, and deeds outweigh the negative. Judgment is something else I experienced in this flesh. It's humiliating. And, you will cry. Hard. You will also feel Mercy, Forgiveness, Grace, and a Love you have never felt. I hope that is the case, because that is how it happened with me.

Providence is Love, and we have to learn things here.

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Lately however, i have been turning over and over in my head that God merely exists in the mind. There is this neuro-chemical called "leu-enkitalin" that gives you a sense of immense well-being. And this may be triggered by a consensual interaction between human beings, perhaps projecting their own onslaught of "leu-enkitalin" in the belief that God is watching over them, through their own speech and emotiveness, thereby ensnaring other non-believers into this thread of "deception".
That would be the Holy Spirit of the Mother. It's a kundalini type energy that flows through the CNS, and is probably a neurotransmitter of some sort, but flows upward from the sacrum, and when it reaches the crown, enlightenment ensues, and that is salvation. It is the process of 'lifting the Son of man, just as Moses lifted the serpent in the wilderness'. From the tail. Tailbone. It is the kundalini awakening the dormant Spirit that dwells within.

And from my own personal experience, i have felt this projection myself, i was evangelised to, and felt this surge of chemical high as the pastor explained to me Christ and prayed over me. And when he talked about the end-times, even something such as heavy rain had me convinced we're nearing the end-times. I am a bit convinced that there is such a neuro-chemical as a "God" neuro-chemical. And when i started to delve into Atheist philosophy, i felt this "god" neuro-chemical leaving me.

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There have also been experiments where certain parts of the brain were stimulated, and certain transmitters created a "God" effect and others created a "Devil" effect.
Rev 12. Read it. It is the Woman clothed with the Sun, crying out in labor to give birth to the man-child. The Son of man within you. She lies in the sacrum as that 'God energy', and that Coccyx that sits below and looks oh so much like a dragon it's freaky. The kundalini energy is a dual rush of a double-helix racing to battle, a beast seeking to devour that man-child. And, that Holy Spirit seeking to enlighten you.

I've been through it all Duce. I've had messages and dreams since childhood. All through my life I was haunted by what you apparently know. The end is near. Very near. Near what, I am not certain. I guess it depends on how successful a mission turns out. If the Truth can finally be revealed through the necessary means, then, a new age will dawn.

If not, a new age will dawn anyway. A starting over type. I have been working very hard trying to complete a task that was dealt to me, and, have been hard at work trying to get a story out, that I won't get into. I may have found someone in the press to help. I am praying she will. It's all prophesy Duce, and fulfilled already, but, the world is oblivious, and will not accept the Truth again. I'll leave it at that.

The old saying. Don't believe everything you see, and only half of what you hear is applicable.
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I'd prefer a discussion

The authority of Truth is the very spirit that indwells. The revelations of divine Truth are not sealed except by human ignorance, bigotry, and narrow minded intolerance. - the Nazarene Christ

Let's hope for the best. Here is one haunting song.



Good one though

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Old 01-05-2012, 08:24 PM   #103 (permalink)
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The proper term for me would be agnostic, maybe almost on the line of Atheism but not completely there. I say this because I actually have had a paranormal/ghost experience in my life. So that does prove to me their is some form of mysticism in this world. In terms of a God, I don't know, a lot of what Christians follow and believe isn't logical to me. Lets say there is a God, and has 10 rules that you CANNOT break, and if you do break them you are sent to fire, brimstone, pain, and suffering AKA Hell. But somehow he still supposedly loves you at the same time? Doesn't seem logical to me. I like to think of religion as a way to keep people in line and to keep society in order, that's it. But I DO believe there is some paranormal spiritual entity out there.
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I would not have taken you to be a Christian.

I think the religion I like the most is Buddhism. Other than that, I've taken some interest in Gnostic Christianity.
what areas of Gnostic Christianity, specifically?
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The proper term for me would be agnostic, maybe almost on the line of Atheism but not completely there. I say this because I actually have had a paranormal/ghost experience in my life. So that does prove to me their is some form of mysticism in this world. In terms of a God, I don't know, a lot of what Christians follow and believe isn't logical to me. Lets say there is a God, and has 10 rules that you CANNOT break, and if you do break them you are sent to fire, brimstone, pain, and suffering AKA Hell. But somehow he still supposedly loves you at the same time? Doesn't seem logical to me. I like to think of religion as a way to keep people in line and to keep society in order, that's it. But I DO believe there is some paranormal spiritual entity out there.
Don't allow orthodox christianty ruin the idea of god. You dont have to believe in the bible in order to believe in some kind of higher power.

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None in specific. I've just been reading this book that talks about them all.
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Don't allow orthodox christianty ruin the idea of god. You dont have to believe in the bible in order to believe in some kind of higher power.



None in specific. I've just been reading this book that talks about them all.
All of you beware, seriously. You will be constrained by every way imaginable based on your belief system. I haven't posted because I found all the Truth, and, it destroyed me. The last thing anyone wants is to become a 'gnostic' anything. Knowing involves knowledge you do not want, or, even see.

It's not what people think. It is very destructive, and, I am fortunate to be sane.
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^^i doubt it - i want to know everything there is to know about a Christian God
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All of you beware, seriously. You will be constrained by every way imaginable based on your belief system. I haven't posted because I found all the Truth, and, it destroyed me. The last thing anyone wants is to become a 'gnostic' anything. Knowing involves knowledge you do not want, or, even see.

It's not what people think. It is very destructive, and, I am fortunate to be sane.
Is this somewhere along the lines of, "you can't handle the truth"?
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All of you beware, seriously. . I haven't posted because I found all the Truth, and, it destroyed me. The last thing anyone wants is to become a 'gnostic' anything. Knowing involves knowledge you do not want, or, even see.

It's not what people think. It is very destructive, and, I am fortunate to be sane.
What's being 'Gnostic' got to do with any of this?
Their Belief system is that the universe was created by the Demiurge, which is not the benevolent and true god.

How can you justify such a broad blanket statement such as "You will be constrained by every way imaginable based on your belief system."?

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What's being 'Gnostic' got to do with any of this?
Their Belief system is that the universe was created by the Demiurge, which is not the benevolent and true god.

How can you justify such a broad blanket statement such as "You will be constrained by every way imaginable based on your belief system."?

Knowledge is power and truth, there is nothing to fear about knowledge.

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Okay. Find the knowledge, then tell me again that there is nothing to fear.

You can call it the Demiurge, or anything you like. It points in the direction of the way things are to be sure.

If you had it, you would never have made that statement. I do not mean that contentiously. So, do not be insulted, please. There is simply a lot more to the story, And, you would not be fearful, you would be horrified.

But, don't believe me. It's your own show, so, you create it any way you like. You may very well be alright when the time comes, I do not know. I do not even know if I will be alright. I am not overly positive on that notion as well.

I cleared my storehouse, and, I am just going to live the rest of this aeon in silence when it comes to offering any advice. Everyone has to do whatever they believe is best. I believe it is best to find your own Truth, and, then rest on it, and hope.

Being constrained is not an original idea of mine. It has been written many times in different ways by various sources. So, it is not a 'blanket statement'.

Search it out, that is your choice. I will not point to any source, because, that is something I will never consider doing any longer. So, justification is on you to find it. It's out there, so, please do not ask how I can justify it. Ask yourself why you cannot.

I will not contend with anyone. I am pointing things out that have been written, and, are not my individual delusive ideas.

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Is this somewhere along the lines of, "you can't handle the truth"?
I can handle it blaster. Barely. If predestination is a reality, and, we do not have free will, then, I can't do anything about anything. I believe that part of the process is to actually free our will, and, unbind the fetters that keep us in bondage.

That's just something I have recently thought out, and I will stick to that idea come hell or high water from here on.

I am almost certain that we are on our own, and, to rest on the notion of an intercessor is no longer, or never was an option.

No crutches. Just a heavy cross to bear for each of us. That is not my believe. Someone said it a mere six times in four redundant gospels of a certain set of 66 books. I do not remember the Name, or the book, but, you may.

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