God is in your mind?

Guybrush · 03-04-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

In case u haven't noticed, since the beginning of time every generation thinks they have it figured out and the next generation proves that they don't have it quite right, and this pattern will always continue, for every study that has been done there is another one that cotradicts it, so just humor me and with an open mind see for yourself and see if there isn't evidence in those videos that u can't shake from your mind but if u already know everything don't bother, You r god and I would like to have a long chat with u, lol

I think science these days are mostly adding details to what we know, not drastically changing theories. We've added lots of knowledge to the theory of evolution, but in principle, it's still pretty much like it was when it was formulated by Charles Darwin in his Origin of the Species. He saw that characteristics were able to inherit from parents to offspring, but didn't know why. He saw evolution had taken place, but didn't know the mechanisms behind it. Today we do.

I think the same goes for most scientific theories. For example I don't think anyone's suddenly going to disprove the atom. I don't think someone's going to prove that 2+2=5.

We got the right ideas and then we take a step further. That's progression, not contradiction.

As for those videos, asking people to watch hours-long videos which contain the points you want to make in a discussion on a forum is just plain lazy.

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Originally Posted by seekn4

Religion is a waste of time, completely, heaven and Hell is right here right now, which r u in

Your reality is what u choose to make it, if in your reality u don't wake up And love your life, u r in Hell

If I'm in either in heaven or hell, I must be in heaven because I think life's been pretty good to me so far!

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U pick any subject in this world and there are always going to be a skeptical opinion, if that is all u choose to consider then that is all you will see, and those skeptics won't except any nnew evidence cause that will mean that they will have to admit that their opinions r wrong, pride is a bitch, and will keep u from learning anything new. "let the wise become a fool that they may become wise"

People are sceptical towards religion because there's never been any proof that any deity exists as anything but an idea. Observational evidence tells us that praying to God for help is not going to make your AIDS go away. It's not going to save you from starvation. If God really existed, then it would have been real easy for him to prove his existence. According to the bible, he's done so many times in the past. Why not now?

seekn4 · 03-04-2012, 03:13 PM

Well the new science has proved that the atom is not at all what we were taught in school, it doesn't even look like we were taught, and again the new scientific discoverys won't be mainstream for another generation or 2 so if u want truth u have to find it yourself

Paedantic Basterd · 03-04-2012, 03:15 PM

And velociraptors were feathered, and Pluto's not a planet. Tore's point still stands though, that we've just improved on our knowledge, not defeated it.

seekn4 · 03-04-2012, 03:26 PM

Why not now, maybe cause people don't actually believe in it anymore, they believe mainstream, there is actually a man who hasn't eaten or drank water for more than 50 years, scientists asked to observe him for ten days and can't figure it out, there is a "buddha boy" u can research all of this, that meditated for over a year that didn't eat or drink, so maybe there is more out there than u can even contemplate. But don't bother u already have it figured out it seems. So u don't believe in faith healing, science has always had that proven, its call the placebo effect, people experience the same healing as people who actually take the medicine, the truth is all around u if u look for it, but your opinions r formed so don't bother.

seekn4 · 03-04-2012, 03:37 PM

If we keep improving on our knowledge y r u so Hell bent in holding onto past knowledge and won't even entertain the new,and there is zero evidence to support evolution

skaltezon · 03-04-2012, 03:40 PM

Prahlad Jani, also known as "Mataji", is an Indian sadhu (born Chunriwala Mataji, August 13, 1929 in Charada, Mehsana district).
He claims to have lived without food and water since 1940 (72 years), and says that the goddess Amba sustains him.

Guybrush · 03-04-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

If we keep improving on our knowledge y r u so Hell bent in holding onto past knowledge and won't even entertain the new

I thought the existence of God is an old belief which is generally being replaced with a newer belief in science. Aren't you the one hanging on to past "knowledge"?

As for the fasting man, I'll remain sceptical until a serious study is published. If it is true, then a scientific article or even a series of them should be right around the corner. I'll happily believe in it when it has passed scientific quality control.

From a religious point of view, the fasting man is a devoted follower of the hindy goddess Amba .. So if his case proves the existence of a Deity, it should be Amba's existence.

skaltezon · 03-04-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

If his case proves the existence of a Deity, it should be Amba's existence.

Unless it's actually a different deity pretending to be Amba.

Guybrush · 03-04-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by skaltezon

Unless it's actually a different deity pretending to be Amba.

If it's God doing it, then that should show how God will support you your whole life even if you don't worship him and instead dedicate your life to breaking his commandment "thou shalt have none other gods before me".

skaltezon · 03-04-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

If it's God doing it, then that should show how God will support you your whole life even if you don't worship him and instead dedicate your life to breaking his commandment "thou shalt have none other gods before me".

Sounds like you're invoking Jehovah. If you think he's jealous of other gods, then it's inconsistent to use the capital God as if he's the only one.

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