God is in your mind?

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 03-05-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by skaltezon

Straw man alert.

How am I attacking a straw man? The argument here is pretty clearly creationism / evolution.

**Janszoon** · 03-05-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan

How am I attacking a straw man? The argument here is pretty clearly creationism / evolution.

Yeah, I thought your comment was a pretty accurate description of what I've been reading in this thread, not a strawman.

Salami · 03-05-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

Tore who u trying to fool if u were a biologist you would know that there is no transition form of humans to prove evolution, if u want to know human beginnings like I said see for yourself and study all of zacharia sitchens work, it makes more sense than anything I have ever heard .

I don't want to intrude into what is tore's territory, since I'm not even an undergraduate in this subject yet, but I really do have a passion for learning about natural history, and in this case I must say you are mistaken.

There are many instances of this, and since I'm pressed for time I'll restrict myself to one example: homo habilis - basic information about which can be found here.

The short story here is that they have different cranium structure to homo erectus, notably having a skull significantly larger than Australopithecus, but significantly smaller and more rounded than ours.

In evolutionary terms, it makes sense that these are examples of a transitionary species between Australopithecus and homo erectus, because it has examples of less developed features found in humans today, but more advanced than earlier specimens.

Hence, I present you with an example of a transitional for of human.
Now, I'll sod off now because this thread is the property of tore and RVCA, and I just want to contribute this example to help illustrate the point tore is making.

@Janszoon, why haven't you ascended into heaven yet?

Paedantic Basterd · 03-05-2012, 09:45 AM

If I'm being perfectly honest here, I think that this debate is taking place with a troll. What I'd really like to know is what brought Seek to Music Banter, whether or not he even enjoys music, and why this is the only thread he's posted in.

**Janszoon** · 03-05-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

If I'm being perfectly honest here, I think that this debate is taking place with a troll. What I'd really like to know is what brought Seek to Music Banter, whether or not he even enjoys music, and why this is the only thread he's posted in.

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Salami · 03-05-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

If I'm being perfectly honest here, I think that this debate is taking place with a troll. What I'd really like to know is what brought Seek to Music Banter, whether or not he even enjoys music, and why this is the only thread he's posted in.

Personally, I have to admit that I think the way he's been treated so far is astonishing, and tore has clearly devoted so much time and effort to debating him wisely and patiently.
I don't mind having a debate about evolution, in fact I'd love it, but the current one is very perplexing.

Paedantic Basterd · 03-05-2012, 10:16 AM

I know it's fun to prod a troll in the ribs to generate maximum amusement out of their initial existence, but when it reaches a point where people are visibly growing irritated by the discussion, it's time to take a step back, because that's what they've been working towards. The reality is that these kinds of posters will either get bored (and leave) or desperate, (and banned) if we stop responding to their comments.

Another thing I would like to ask anybody who has trolled before, is whether or not you realize that your presence in a discussion makes you out as a laughing stock, and heightens the superiority complex of the opposition? Somehow, while this is meant to be fun for the troll, it's a bit like kicking yourself in the nards and laughing.

Salami · 03-05-2012, 10:23 AM

What annoys me about trolls is that I can spend quite a lot of time researching and ordering my thoughts and posting something like this:
http://www.musicbanter.com/current-e...ml#post1162048

...for it to have no effect whatsoever and end up ignored. I've got a busy life, A levels to revise for in two months, various coursework assignments to do and to top it off it's a great day outside and I want to play some badminton with my friends, and I end up wasting time on nothing.

Paedantic Basterd · 03-05-2012, 10:24 AM

Which I'm sure they think is fabulous. Honestly, you're better off staying out of any discussion that is clearly fruitless than wasting your time trying to bring someone around to a reasonable position.

Salami · 03-05-2012, 10:28 AM

That's true.... I'm a bit sad because I really love this issue, but clearly we're arguing with the wrong person. It's a forum where all kinds of people end up, and I suppose a lot of effort can be wasted or just cause amusement.

03-05-2012, 09:45 AM	#254 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	If I'm being perfectly honest here, I think that this debate is taking place with a troll. What I'd really like to know is what brought Seek to Music Banter, whether or not he even enjoys music, and why this is the only thread he's posted in.

03-05-2012, 10:16 AM	#257 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	I know it's fun to prod a troll in the ribs to generate maximum amusement out of their initial existence, but when it reaches a point where people are visibly growing irritated by the discussion, it's time to take a step back, because that's what they've been working towards. The reality is that these kinds of posters will either get bored (and leave) or desperate, (and banned) if we stop responding to their comments. Another thing I would like to ask anybody who has trolled before, is whether or not you realize that your presence in a discussion makes you out as a laughing stock, and heightens the superiority complex of the opposition? Somehow, while this is meant to be fun for the troll, it's a bit like kicking yourself in the nards and laughing.

03-05-2012, 10:23 AM	#258 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	What annoys me about trolls is that I can spend quite a lot of time researching and ordering my thoughts and posting something like this: http://www.musicbanter.com/current-e...ml#post1162048 ...for it to have no effect whatsoever and end up ignored. I've got a busy life, A levels to revise for in two months, various coursework assignments to do and to top it off it's a great day outside and I want to play some badminton with my friends, and I end up wasting time on nothing.

03-05-2012, 10:24 AM	#259 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Which I'm sure they think is fabulous. Honestly, you're better off staying out of any discussion that is clearly fruitless than wasting your time trying to bring someone around to a reasonable position.

03-05-2012, 10:28 AM	#260 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	That's true.... I'm a bit sad because I really love this issue, but clearly we're arguing with the wrong person. It's a forum where all kinds of people end up, and I suppose a lot of effort can be wasted or just cause amusement.