seekn4

I really have no desire to read all of your babble but I did read the first paragraph, you only listen to skeptics so that is all you know, and I'm sure some have faked it however some are real, one was locked in a room for 9 days in a hospital room by people just like you, and recorded it all and they can't explain it and are baffled, there is your science and you refuse to believe it, that was a controlled experiment yet you dismiss it cause again you will have to admit you are wrong.
WHY CAN'T YOU ADMIT THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND AND CAN'T EXPLAIN? I am sure the people on this forum are sick of your arrogance, can I get an amen!

Guybrush

I thought you felt nothing but love for me, seekn4.

About your starving guru, if there really was a good study on this guy, give us a link to this study then so we can read about it. I already stated I will look into whatever documentation you can find.

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seekn4

I do love you bro, you are me 10 years ago, full of pride. And about posting links, I am not versed enough on computer to do that, do some searching, seek and you shall find. I just wish you could get a taste of what you can feel inside after choosing to love everything I dispise, and I do wish nothing but the best for everybody and wish they could find happiness, I had a near death experience and you don't see what life is about until you almost loose it believe me. We need to pursue knowledge that brings us peace, makes our lives better and practice it, everything else is a waste of time if you ask me.

blastingas10

Going with the explanation that requires less new assumptions, and less thought doesn't seem to be a very fruitful way of looking at things. Sure, it may lead to the most plausible answer but if this is how we always approached the mysteries of our world then I don't think we would have come as far as we have. All of the revolutionary thinkers of the past would have never been.


I think there is some truth to that

seekn4

[QUOTE=blastingas10;1254199]Going with the explanation that requires less new assumptions, and less thought doesn't seem to be a very fruitful way of looking at things. Sure, it may lead to the most plausible answer but if this is how we always approached the mysteries of our world then I don't think we would have come as far as we have. All of the revolutionary thinkers of the past would have never been.




Well stated bro

Face

There are plenty of things that can't be explained and we don't understand. But there is evidence that they actually occur, and what affects them. Take the placebo effect for example.

What we don't need to concern ourselves with is things that can't be proven to have actually occurred, like living off nothing for months and the like.

seekn4

Sorry face but it has been proven. But you can't find evidence you are not looking for! What you seek you will find, if you are looking for evidence that it is not possible, you will find it, if you are looking for evidence it is possible you will find it too, which is the case with nearly every subject on this planet. Every reality is out there you get to choose which one you live in.


I will demonstrate, whoever is in involved in this conversation, post what they see when they look at the world please, just humor me and I will show you what I'm talking about

And the placebo can be explained they believed in it which gave them the emotion of hope which healed them.
All of the ancient texts states the same thing, what we believe has physical power and prayer is not in the words is the feeling. And that is what quantum physics is uncovering. Does the placebo effect not prove the power of belief and how it has physical power, people have been healed of cancer using just about every method under the sun, and all of them had the feeling of hope in what they were doing it so it is not what you are doing, the deciding factor seems to be the individuals belief in what they were doing and if you believe you are going to get better it gives you the emotion of hope and hope feels good, so if you follow your guidance which is how we feel, it has power. I have followed logic to its limit and about went insane and at the end logic will tell you to follow your how you feel and quit thinking.

seekn4

Tore, you said that you would be glad to study any info I might have but I believe we tried that in march, and here is what happened, I told you to go to you tube and check out "gregg Braden the language of the divine matrix" it is 4 hrs long and you said you watched a few min and stated that he talked too slow and disregarded him as a con artists, how can you retort rationally, and intelligently if you won't even hear all of the evidence you are trying to contradict, you see how your judgements will keep you blinded? fyi he was talking slow cause the seminar was in italy and what he said had to be translated to Italian. And really there is no sense watching it if you aren't open to the possibly that he is right or else your mind will find one thing you don't agree with (and most likely just cause you don't understand) and your brain will focus on that and tune out everything else, you don't start to learn until you have the ability to observe without judgement. If you dismiss someone that dedicated their life to research on a subject cause they talk slow there is no sense in looking anymore, you already know all you will ever know.

blastingas10

I guess I'm the only one who finds this to be pretty comical

seekn4

I have been laughing my ass off, this is like going to the comedy club, its fun to play the devils advocate, this thread was pretty boring before I got here, just figured I would get everyone fired up and thinking