What's your point?

Do you understand freedom as the freedom to bully other people? That's the way you come across.

As an alcoholic, i do need alcohol or some drug in order to have fun.

As a fairly antisocial person it's my best tool to be more outgoing. It kills a lot of negative self conscious thoughts in my brain and the fact that I can drink a retarded amount is perceived as a cool characteristic by others, mostly those younger then me.

I often black out, but seem to be a fairly entertaining drunk.

The thought of trying to dance with a girl sober is very scary to me, i need to be drunk or at least the placebo of an altered state of mind to be comfortable with myself in that type of environment.

I see this more as that person having a problem with not drinking.

Not being able to have fun without alcohol can vary between people who claim that they need the alc to have fun. Of course there will be many of these people who are hopeless alcoholics, but there are also several different kinds of drinkers who hold the same opinion without having the "disease" of alcoholicism...or just don't know what they are really saying because they're hammered already. It really depends on how they define fun in the long run.

I'm by no means an alcoholic, but I do drink more than I should. And, as much as I loathe to admit this, the primary reason why I drink is because, for me, everything is just a little bit more fun and comfortable when inebriated.

'Fun' for me means to be in a state untethered by social anxiety. When drunk my self-confidence rises significantly, and as a result I feel comfortable around people I don't know and in environments I'm unfamiliar with. If I go to a party sober, for example, I'll sit there scrutinizing everything about myself to the point of exhaustion: how I'm sitting, what I'm saying to other people, how I look in the clothes I'm wearing, it does my head in.

I do not drink every day, and I do not rely on alcohol when on my own or with close friends, but in large social environments it is a welcomed pressure valve. And it does bring people closer together, which is nice.

Depends on what your definition of fun is.

I don't need alcohol to have fun doing any activity apart from one... Being in a room full of drunk people.

I do tend to pound back rapidly whatever is available in a matter of seconds if I'm in a social situation I deem awkward.

What about "If your friends don't know how to make a mixed drinks you need friends."

I agree with you that moderation is key. Nothing wrong with a getting to with friends to have a good time, and maybe having a drink or so, which is a bit different than getting together for the sole purpose of getting out of your mind drunk.

i'm about to binge shortly

2012 is coming

I think it's all down to the company. Sometimes yes, you do need alcohol to have fun. If you are with the right people you don't.

nevermind