American Presidency Campaign

TheBig3 · 01-22-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

He's a ****ing joke of a politician. Has no chance of beating Obama. His ideas are frivolous and empty, and his entire campaign of conservative and family values is based on lie after lie. He will stand to be the biggest piece of **** candidate America has had since John Kerry.

What's wrong with John Kerry?

**Frownland** · 01-22-2012, 12:59 PM

^ please be joking.

TheBig3 · 01-22-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

^ please be joking.

I don't know if we've met, but I don't let people get away with making statements and not explaining them. Most especially when they compare two things that aren't obvious (like Newt and Kerry).

I also really enjoy this sort of response I've quoted above because I feel they add value to a conversation, and further everyones understanding of the topic.

My name's Big3, and I approve this message.

blastingas10 · 01-22-2012, 01:24 PM

I think I'd rather have Obama than all the remaining republicans, except Ron Paul. I also don't think Gingrich could beat Obama, but then again, he might. He won South Carolina. I think people may be stupid enough to vote for him over Obama.

Abstract · 01-22-2012, 01:47 PM

There is no direct comparison between John Kerry and Newt Gingrich, John Kerry is a traitor to the veterans of the Vietnam war. Not to mention the fact that he is another radical leftist who preaches the garbage lie of global warming. And in terms of beating Obama you think Romney can? Or Ron Paul? Ridiculous, Romney is too moderate to show a stark contrast between himself and Obama. Ron Paul is a joke, I am sorry but if you think that taking out Bin Laden was a bad idea AND you believe that the Middle East wouldn't hate the U.S if we just left them alone then you need to open your eyes. I will go ahead and say that Ron Paul has excellent monetary policy, but that is about it. I have put my trust in Gingrich, but then again I am a staunch conservative who would never vote for a Marxist Leftist idiot even if you put a gun to my head. And until you have actually read the mans plan in detail, you can't claim it's not bold. I haven't heard one other person call out the media for protecting Barack Obama, just look at what CNN did at the last debate. And the list goes on and on. If you have actually paid attention you would notice that the media is eliminating the person who wan't to change the current establishment. Herman Cain was singled out because he wanted to reform the tax code, and not to mention he was an outsider who is a threat to the big wigs in Washington. Gingrich is a threat because he actually sees Washington, and Democrats, and Liberals for what they are. Big spending politicians who want to slowly change this country over to a Socialist European model. I don't care if Socialism works, I don't want that political view in my country, I believe in Capitalism and less government, it is up to the individual to make a name for himself, not to get help from the government.

**Frownland** · 01-22-2012, 02:14 PM

That makes sense, TheBig3.

I don't think we should put Gingrich in office because I can't see him beating Obama. Plus his past as a drug-lobbyist will come to haunt him and the lesser of the several evils running for the candidacy seem to be better options.

Not that any of these candidates are ideal, as (most) Americans reside by the clothespin vote in modern times, it's not very likely that this will change in the upcoming election.

blastingas10 · 01-22-2012, 02:57 PM

Ron Paul was not against killing bin laden. He thinks we didn't do it fast enough. He voted to go after him right after 9/11. You can say anything you want about him. I know what he's about and I support him 100%. He's the only one who can challange the state of things and actually make some changes. Newt Gingrich isn't going to change anything. Mark my words.

Mrd00d · 01-22-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Abstract

There is no direct comparison between John Kerry and Newt Gingrich, John Kerry is a traitor to the veterans of the Vietnam war. Not to mention the fact that he is another radical leftist who preaches the garbage lie of global warming.

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And in terms of beating Obama you think Romney can? Or Ron Paul? Ridiculous, Romney is too moderate to show a stark contrast between himself and Obama. Ron Paul is a joke, I am sorry but if you think that taking out Bin Laden was a bad idea AND you believe that the Middle East wouldn't hate the U.S if we just left them alone then you need to open your eyes. I will go ahead and say that Ron Paul has excellent monetary policy, but that is about it. I have put my trust in Gingrich, but then again I am a staunch conservative who would never vote for a Marxist Leftist idiot even if you put a gun to my head.

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And until you have actually read the mans plan in detail, you can't claim it's not bold. I haven't heard one other person call out the media for protecting Barack Obama, just look at what CNN did at the last debate. And the list goes on and on. If you have actually paid attention you would notice that the media is eliminating the person who wan't to change the current establishment. Herman Cain was singled out because he wanted to reform the tax code, and not to mention he was an outsider who is a threat to the big wigs in Washington. Gingrich is a threat because he actually sees Washington, and Democrats, and Liberals for what they are.

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Big spending politicians who want to slowly change this country over to a Socialist European model. I don't care if Socialism works, I don't want that political view in my country, I believe in Capitalism and less government, it is up to the individual to make a name for himself, not to get help from the government.

I'm so jealous of the European model. I don't think it can be implemented here easily, especially with people like you that don't care if it works or not, but it is a great system in my opinion. Reading your post was all

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**Janszoon** · 01-22-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Abstract

There is no direct comparison between John Kerry and Newt Gingrich, John Kerry is a traitor to the veterans of the Vietnam war. Not to mention the fact that he is another radical leftist who preaches the garbage lie of global warming. And in terms of beating Obama you think Romney can? Or Ron Paul? Ridiculous, Romney is too moderate to show a stark contrast between himself and Obama. Ron Paul is a joke, I am sorry but if you think that taking out Bin Laden was a bad idea AND you believe that the Middle East wouldn't hate the U.S if we just left them alone then you need to open your eyes. I will go ahead and say that Ron Paul has excellent monetary policy, but that is about it. I have put my trust in Gingrich, but then again I am a staunch conservative who would never vote for a Marxist Leftist idiot even if you put a gun to my head. And until you have actually read the mans plan in detail, you can't claim it's not bold. I haven't heard one other person call out the media for protecting Barack Obama, just look at what CNN did at the last debate. And the list goes on and on. If you have actually paid attention you would notice that the media is eliminating the person who wan't to change the current establishment. Herman Cain was singled out because he wanted to reform the tax code, and not to mention he was an outsider who is a threat to the big wigs in Washington. Gingrich is a threat because he actually sees Washington, and Democrats, and Liberals for what they are. Big spending politicians who want to slowly change this country over to a Socialist European model. I don't care if Socialism works, I don't want that political view in my country, I believe in Capitalism and less government, it is up to the individual to make a name for himself, not to get help from the government.

lol, I don't even know where to begin with this mountain of absurdity.

TheBig3 · 01-22-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Abstract

There is no direct comparison between John Kerry and Newt Gingrich, John Kerry is a traitor to the veterans of the Vietnam war. Not to mention the fact that he is another radical leftist who preaches the garbage lie of global warming. And in terms of beating Obama you think Romney can? Or Ron Paul? Ridiculous, Romney is too moderate to show a stark contrast between himself and Obama. Ron Paul is a joke, I am sorry but if you think that taking out Bin Laden was a bad idea AND you believe that the Middle East wouldn't hate the U.S if we just left them alone then you need to open your eyes. I will go ahead and say that Ron Paul has excellent monetary policy, but that is about it. I have put my trust in Gingrich, but then again I am a staunch conservative who would never vote for a Marxist Leftist idiot even if you put a gun to my head. And until you have actually read the mans plan in detail, you can't claim it's not bold. I haven't heard one other person call out the media for protecting Barack Obama, just look at what CNN did at the last debate. And the list goes on and on. If you have actually paid attention you would notice that the media is eliminating the person who wan't to change the current establishment. Herman Cain was singled out because he wanted to reform the tax code, and not to mention he was an outsider who is a threat to the big wigs in Washington. Gingrich is a threat because he actually sees Washington, and Democrats, and Liberals for what they are. Big spending politicians who want to slowly change this country over to a Socialist European model. I don't care if Socialism works, I don't want that political view in my country, I believe in Capitalism and less government, it is up to the individual to make a name for himself, not to get help from the government.

Newt Gingrich, after becoming speaker, bailed out Mexico to satisfy his Goldman Sachs lobbyists. Newt Gingrich did a commercial for Al Gore, with Nancy Pelosi for the benefit of ending global warming. Newt Gingrich was paid exorbitant amounts of money by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as a lobbyist.

I would suggest that if you give a damn about politics or this country you stop regurgitating talking points and do some research. These facts are a Google away. Newt Gingrich is a smart guy with some sharp ideas, but he is too easily swayed on the matter of principles, he's too easily distracted by power and money.

And for the record, John Kerry is a Purple-Heart winning war veteran. He is most likely to replace Clinton in 2012 if Obama is reelected. He has a far more material track-record on foreign policy that almost anyone sitting currently on the right.

I don't know who you're calling a Marxist Lefty, but there isn't a Marxist in the field, Left or Right. I'd read up on what that means also. Primarily you'd need to dissolve privately owned property all-together. No one has hinted at that.

01-22-2012, 12:59 PM	#152 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	^ please be joking. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

01-22-2012, 02:14 PM	#156 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	That makes sense, TheBig3. I don't think we should put Gingrich in office because I can't see him beating Obama. Plus his past as a drug-lobbyist will come to haunt him and the lesser of the several evils running for the candidacy seem to be better options. Not that any of these candidates are ideal, as (most) Americans reside by the clothespin vote in modern times, it's not very likely that this will change in the upcoming election. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x Last edited by Frownland; 01-22-2012 at 02:15 PM. Reason: bad grammers

01-22-2012, 01:24 PM	#154 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	I think I'd rather have Obama than all the remaining republicans, except Ron Paul. I also don't think Gingrich could beat Obama, but then again, he might. He won South Carolina. I think people may be stupid enough to vote for him over Obama.

01-22-2012, 01:47 PM	#155 (permalink)
Abstract Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: The Frontier Posts: 60	There is no direct comparison between John Kerry and Newt Gingrich, John Kerry is a traitor to the veterans of the Vietnam war. Not to mention the fact that he is another radical leftist who preaches the garbage lie of global warming. And in terms of beating Obama you think Romney can? Or Ron Paul? Ridiculous, Romney is too moderate to show a stark contrast between himself and Obama. Ron Paul is a joke, I am sorry but if you think that taking out Bin Laden was a bad idea AND you believe that the Middle East wouldn't hate the U.S if we just left them alone then you need to open your eyes. I will go ahead and say that Ron Paul has excellent monetary policy, but that is about it. I have put my trust in Gingrich, but then again I am a staunch conservative who would never vote for a Marxist Leftist idiot even if you put a gun to my head. And until you have actually read the mans plan in detail, you can't claim it's not bold. I haven't heard one other person call out the media for protecting Barack Obama, just look at what CNN did at the last debate. And the list goes on and on. If you have actually paid attention you would notice that the media is eliminating the person who wan't to change the current establishment. Herman Cain was singled out because he wanted to reform the tax code, and not to mention he was an outsider who is a threat to the big wigs in Washington. Gingrich is a threat because he actually sees Washington, and Democrats, and Liberals for what they are. Big spending politicians who want to slowly change this country over to a Socialist European model. I don't care if Socialism works, I don't want that political view in my country, I believe in Capitalism and less government, it is up to the individual to make a name for himself, not to get help from the government.

01-22-2012, 02:57 PM	#157 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Ron Paul was not against killing bin laden. He thinks we didn't do it fast enough. He voted to go after him right after 9/11. You can say anything you want about him. I know what he's about and I support him 100%. He's the only one who can challange the state of things and actually make some changes. Newt Gingrich isn't going to change anything. Mark my words.