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It's starting to heat up now, to you lovely Americans, what are your thoughts on the candidates that may be running at the moment?

What do you think about Ron Paul? I heard he uses organic (Austrian) economics to make accurate economic predictions such as in 2002 he made this video which has all come true:

All we're really hearing about at the moment are the republican primaries, we're not really in presidential campaign mode yet. That said, all the republican contenders are awful, as expected.

Since they're running against an incumbent president (who almost always get reelected) the only people who are running against Obama right now are rejects. Hence why the only one who has the slightest chance is Romney, because even though no one gives a **** about his flip flopping wannabe ass, at least he's not as big a loser as any of the other candidates. This is why I don't vote. **** politicians.

Edit: Oh, and while I think that Ron Paul has some good opinions, I think libertarianism is utopian nonsense, so I can only care so much. Especially since his newsletters came out.

Romney is just a rich boy from suburban Detroit who wants to be president.

I'm interested to see how the New Hampshire primary turns out though. Ron Paul seems to be moving up in the polls (ugh).

Sorry I didn't answer this in my previous reply. Here's how I feel about Ron Paul: I appreciate the fact that he actually has a consistent viewpoint on things (unlike someone like Romney or Gingrich who will just say whatever to get elected) and I agree with him about certain things such as ending the "war on drugs", but aside from that I can't stand the guy. I think his approach to complicated issues is overly simplistic and I have a huge problem with people who are willing to excuse institutional bigotry in the name of state's rights. I also think he'd be a complete disaster in terms of international diplomacy if he were president.

Voting for Ron Paul in the primary. Voting for him again if he gets the nod. Obama will be our president until 2016, that's almost certain at this point. No one in the current field can come close to beating him.

Yeah, I saw him on Leno the other night, and apart from being kind of dull, he also comes off as being only marginally intelligent. Not stupid, just, about as smart and able to lead a country as I'd expect a gynecologist to be.

I couldn't claim to be an expert on US politics, but I'd like to see Obama get re-elected. In the minute chance that it won't happen, I'd go for Romney. He may be a Republican, but he's refreshingly Liberal in a party that's mostly built around ignorant bible-bashing Conservatives in this election (hi Rick Perry!) but seeing as his own party seem to hate him with a passion because how dare he support human rights, it seems unlikely that he'll be able to challenge Obama. And good, I say.

If Ron Paul got his way he'd bring in a lot of money into the American economy by making America more attractive to foreign companies with little to no taxes and regulation, but all that money doesn't mean squat without proper circulation, I fear the main belief behind it is that everyone has the same opportunities and it's up to them to get the money into their own hands.
While he praises the merits of Competition in a free market the quality of goods will deteriorate massively as the companies that sell the cheapest goods with the biggest profits will be more capable of undercutting their competitors.
With public schools being abolished the lower classes with be left with no prospects widening economic inequality.

But if Ron Paul did get elected he wouldn't be able to get much passed so really we'd just see more tax cuts for the rich before the bush tax cuts expire and more hardship for the elderly and disabled as he continues his war against the welfare state leaving the next president with a bigger mess to clean up as the quality of life deteriorates in lower income areas.

It's not that he's liberal, it's that he's liberal when he's the governor of a liberal state, then he starts talking the conservative talk when trying to run for President. I like the fact that he'd be less of a wing nut than some of the others, but I can't stand him personally. He's the very image of the slick talking politician.

Mit Romney kind of reminds me of Alex Shrub.

I thought Ron Paul was quite compelling, but some of the stuff he wants to do is pretty damn drastic. I do LOVE his foreign policy though. It'd be great to just mind our own business. I really don't know at this point who I would vote for.

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Ron Paul would be preferable to the other Republican candidates. But I wouldn't vote for him because he's only two degrees of separation from the mouthbreather shown putting his foot on this woman's head:

Ron Paul --> Rand Paul (his son) --> 'libertarian' supporter


Nice following, Ron.

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Very powerful video Vanilla.

Currently, I am supporting Newt Gingrich, his wealth of knowledge and intelligence is amazing and I believe that is why he attracts new voters. I support him mainly because of the fact that he is a Reaganite, seeing as I am a Reagan Conservative as well. I unfortunately think that Newt will not win though. My next choice would be Ron Paul, I believe in his message about freedom and liberty, and I also believe the media and most people have a common misconception about his foreign policy. When in actuality he plans to make our military five times the size of China's. I find Romney to be a moderate who in all actuality is actually a RINO(Republican In Name Only). But I am pretty sure that he will be the guy to win the Republican nomination. Whoever it is running against Obama I will vote for them hands down. We can't take another term of O'clueless.. but that's a whole different matter to discuss.

Personally, I'd vote Know-Nothing before I'd vote republican, and I'm Irish and German.

Jon Huntsman is incredibly smart, fair, unassuming and a decent person. Which of course means he won't get very far in this race.

I was actually going to say the same thing about Huntsman. Watching him on Meet the Press yesterday especially, I was wondering why the most well-spoken and intelligent candidate was the one getting the least pull with the party voters.

I don't know why they should be so opposed to someone who's actually able to articulate without getting into near shouting matches (I'm looking at you, Romney and Gingrich) or stammering through their responses (I'm looking at you, Paul) or just being a jackass who shot a coyote on his morning jog (Perry). Or just Rick Santorum. I think that Huntsman is worth a hundred of him.

I agree that he seems to be the best of the bunch when it comes to the republicans. Not that the bar is particularly high.

As a liberal Democrat, I am mostly just amazed and fascinated that the Republican candidates can have world views and goals that are so often completely the opposite of mine. It's like we don't even come from the same planet!

For example, I am amazed at how diametrically opposed my views are from those of Rick Perry, who appears in this TV ad to want the U.S. to be a Christian theocracy in which schools are extensions of churches (more so than they already are), and people in same-sex relationships are treated as atrocities too horrible to be recognized as deserving of equal rights:


Strong- Rick Perry (Anti-Gay AD) Comments Enabled! GOP 2012 - YouTube

Hmm...the woman is a supporter of MoveOn.org. I have been on that organization's mailing list for several years. Her head could have been mine.

It's so sweet and sad how she says, "These [Rand Paul] supporters weren't very nice to me." (Great understatement.) She sounds so kind and level-headed, especially when her tempered words are juxtaposed with the stupidly violent, counter-productive actions of that baseball-cap-wearing, cretin-like man stomping on her head/neck.

Videos like this make me think, what the earth is wrong with people???

You can't blame the politicians for their idiotic supporters.

Out of all of the Republicans, I like Ron Paul myself. I like his foreign policy and emphasis on individual liberty, and I certainly don't believe he's a racist. I feel as though he's a lot more genuine than Romney, Gingrich, and especially Santorum. I like John Huntsman as well, and it's a shame that he's been so largely ignored.

Oh I don't know. I think Santorum is pretty genuine. He's a genuine asshole.

His smile defines "sh*t-eating grin".

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cMKgiibP_2...umBigSmile.jpg

Did you see the dozens of parodies of that Rock Perry ad? That one's my favorite ^

It's pretty pathetic. I don't feel that Obama deserves a second term, especially after signing the National Defense Act, but I also feel that every single GOP hopeful deserves a first term even less.

I mean, all Obama has to do is sit back and watch the Republicans run themselves into the ground. (Though maybe I should be using the past tense)

That's awesome, I am fully checking out the rest of them.

That poor woman getting her head stomped on! I am not surprised though, look at idiotic Americans on Black Friday crushing/stampeding over people.

This automatically reminded me of this:

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I'll just leave this here.

Americans are right crazy, well degrees of craziness anyway.

While I don't agree with anything he stands for, I think Santorum will get my vote (In the primaries). I can't imagine not voting for Obama again, but the rest of the pack are pretty scummy and I don't think Ron Paul has a snowballs chance in hell of unseating Romney. If Huntsman could beat Romney he'd get my vote.


So you're racist?

Romney really seems like the only one with a chance to beat Obama in the election. He's not inches from death, wearing sweatervests, or gay bashing and he has McCain's support behind him. If he gets the nod I suppose I will vote for him, but anyone else I'm going to clothespin vote for Obama.

No context on this one, but for those who don't know, those two fine gentlemen with Ron Paul are the founders of Stormfront.

I'm really confused on how Ron Paul isn't racist, after all he's against the Civil Rights act iirc. I don't see how his reasons could be anything other than he's a ****ing bigot. It's just like when you hear morons who fly the Confederate flag talk about how it's not racist!!! it's about state's rights!!!

I don't think so....

I think the only one gaybashing is Perry and he's all but dead, but Santorum isn't bashing, he just holds backward and deeply religious. I don't think he hates gay people.

I hear a lot of Anti-Semetic comments about Paul rallies, and he represents an ancient conservatism that had deep rooted anti-Semetic views though I don't know if he represents them. His son said that Civil Rights act isn't necessary today, but they're coming at it from a government intervention standpoint.

That doesn't make it smart - this is why ideology is ridiculous - but I don't know if its fair to say they're biggots. Also, I have no idea who stormfront is.

Thanks for explaining that. I had no idea what I was supposed to be looking at in that picture.

Stormfont is the biggest white power discussion board on the internet.

Don't you just love political slander, all you end up doing is trying to convince the public who's the lesser of two evils.

I only meant Perry for the gaybashing part.

You're joking right? Santorum is the scummiest of them all

Santorum named one of three Most Corrupt Senators in 2006

Rick Santorum claims that an imprisoned father who abandoned their child is better than a gay parent

Rick Santorum pledges to ban all forms of pornography

I could keep going

You could, but as I've said, he's wrong, but he's not dishonorable. He's entitled to his opinion for better or worse, and I don't agree with his opinion but we have a separation of powers in this country for a reason. The president isn't the moral compass for the country, he isn't a law-maker, he's the leader of the military and he enforces the law.

As I've said, to secure my vote, you need to be able to counter Mittens and I need to think you're not a complete D-bag.

The president also is the face of our country. I'm sorry but I don't want an outspoken homophobe representing me to the world. It was bad enough when he was representing my state to the rest of the country.

Someone should post that picture of Ron Paul chopping ice in the nude. It's what helped me realize that I'm part of the 99%.

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!11!!
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I don't know how you can hold that opinion when the first link I gave you details just how corrupt Santorum is. Forget his beliefs for a moment and look at the evidence presented to you on the state of his person as a politician.

I'm essentially just quoting most of that article, since it's evident you didn't bother looking at it before replying.