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Look, I am not for gay marriage but that does not mean I am a homophobe for that. I already said I accept gay civil union, gays being able to serve the army openly, and gays having health benefits. Anyone should be for that and I am for that. I believe in traditional marriage and that is my belief.

Everyone is different. Name calling does not anything. As I said, most Americans agree with me. Allwise why then only nine states have gay marriage and the other 41 states do not. Because most Americans do not accept Gay Marriage. That is truth. Most of the states who have gay marriage was because the government did their selves.

I do not wish Gay pepole any ill. Anyone can disagree with me. Fine, you have to do so. But let me make it clear, I am not a bigot or a homophobe. I respect everyone's lifestyles even if I don't agree with it. I am a nice guy and understands that everyone has their views.

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1154736)

What do you mean in the line I bolded?

Secondly, Its not about "agreement" its a civil right. Its illegal not to have ay marriage.

Big 3, I think he means it was done through judicial activism.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1155029)

Big 3, I think he means it was done judicial activism.

Neap, man, I was laying to ground work for exposing hypocrisy. I knew what he meant - now I'm going to have to rig up this framework all over again...

Well, FPK, I guess I'll just have to hope you're honest when i ask you these.

If people elect officials to represent them in government, and the government did this "their selves" then how isn't this people choosing to have gay marriage?

Hey everybody! Something great happened!

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1151274)

A U.S. appeals court rules Prop. 8 unconstitutional

Fucking finally.

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Also, FCKH8!
http://s18.postimage.org/lh0tsmu8l/fckh8.jpg

That's fantastic that you were part of it all - I'm proud that we have someone out there fighting for civil rights here on this forum!

(Hopefully things will go uphill from here).

I read that this morning, yayayayay!

You just know somebody somewhere is now referring to it as "Marry Land".

I laughed pretty hard when I saw how the votes broke down:

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Voting in favor of the bill (25):

Sen. James Brochin (D-Baltimore County)

Sen. Joan Carter Conway (D-Baltimore)

Sen. William C. Ferguson (D-Baltimore)*

Sen. Jennie M. Forehand (D-Montgomery)*

Sen. Brian E. Frosh (D-Montgomery)*

Sen. Robert J. Garagiola (D-Montgomery)*

Sen. Lisa A. Gladden (D-Baltimore)*

Sen. Verna L. Jones-Rodwell (D-Baltimore)*

Sen. Edward J. Kasemeyer (D-Baltimore County)

Sen. Dolores G. Kelley (D-Baltimore County)*

Sen. Nancy J. King (D-Montgomery)*

Sen. Allan H. Kittleman (R-Howard)*

Sen. Katherine A. Klausmeier (D-Baltimore County)

Sen. Richard S. Madaleno Jr. (D-Montgomery)*

Sen. Roger Manno (D-Montgomery)*

Sen. Nathaniel J. McFadden (D-Baltimore)*

Sen. Karen S. Montgomery (D-Montgomery)*

Sen. Paul G. Pinsky (D-Prince George’s)*

Sen. Catherine E. Pugh (D-Baltimore)*

Sen. Victor R. Ramirez (D-Prince George’s)*

Sen. Jamie B. Raskin (D-Montgomery)*

Sen. James N. Robey (D-Howard)*

Sen. James C. Rosapepe (D-Prince George’s)

Sen. Ronald N. Young (D-Frederick)*

Sen. Robert A. Zirkin (D-Baltimore County)*

* Indicates sponsor or co-sponsor

So, out of the 25 supporters, only 1 was a Republican. If you break down state senators by Geography, you get; 2 from Prince George’s 5 were from Baltimore county, 6 from Baltimore itself, 8 from Montgomery, and the remainder elsewhere. Meaning, of course, that the supporters are incredibly concentrated geographically.

As compared to:

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Voting against the bill (22):

Sen. John C. Astle (D-Anne Arundel)

Sen. Joanne C. Benson (D-Prince George’s)

Sen. David R. Brinkley (R-Frederick)

Sen. Richard E. Colburn (R-Dorchester)

Sen. Ulysses Currie (D-Prince George’s)

Sen. James E. DeGrange Sr. (D-Anne Arundel)

Sen. Roy P. Dyson (St. Mary’s)

Sen. George C. Edwards (R-Garrett)

Sen. Joseph M. Getty (R-Carroll)

Sen. Barry Glassman (R-Harford)

Sen. Nancy Jacobs (R-Harford)

Sen. J.B. Jennings (R-Baltimore County)

Sen. James N. Mathias Jr. (D-Worcester)

Sen. Thomas M. Middleton (D-Charles)

Sen. Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. (D-Calvert)**

Sen. C. Anthony Muse (D-Prince George’s)

Sen. Douglas J.J. Peters (D-Prince George’s)

Sen. E.J. Pipkin (R-Queen Anne’s)

Sen. Edward R. Reilly (R-Anne Arundel)

Sen. Christopher B. Shank (R-Washington)

Sen. Bryan W. Simonaire (R-Anne Arundel)

Sen. Norman R. Stone Jr. (D-Baltimore County)

Whereas, for opponents, 10(!) of the 22 were Democrats. If you break down state senators by Geography, you get; 4 from Anne Arundel, 3 from Prince George’s, and 2 from Harford - meaning opponents represent a wider geographical area.

It certainly seems there will be interesting primaries for all the Democrats, especially for those state senators of St. George's island, since they're all five of them are Democrats, but 3 went against and 2 went for.