Slavery & the Civil War

Abstract · 02-29-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

That is also something I was trying to say.

While there may be movies about the holocaust, and maybe there is a Jewish month, but I've never heard of it and I doubt I'm the only one. The media definitely publicizes the whole black history month a lot more.

The holocaust also ties in with Hitler, and the war, so there are definitely going to be a lot of movies about it. It's just better movie material.

My main point is that the media doesn't spread the message of the Jews history near as much as African-Americans history. I don't think I've ever seen a TV commercial about jewish history month, I've seen plenty about black history month. And Public schools, at least in my experience, don't educate about Jewish history near as much as they educate about African-Americans.

Good point about Native Americans. They were probably ****ed over more than any race, but not much is said about it. Maybe because there aren't many left, because our ancestors killed so many; and it just had to be done, so **** em, lets throw a holiday for the blacks and just try to forget about the Indians.

I agree. As a matter of fact I do have a good percentage of Native American blood in me, but trying to find out what exact tribe is a whole other story. One thing that annoys me about us Americans is that we feel we have the right to morally judge other countries in the genocides they have committed. Yes, each country does deserve to be brought to justice for their crimes, but us Americans always take the high ground and act as if our history is 100% free from murder, and or genocide. What you said about the Indians is absolutely correct, The Trail of Tears is a perfect example. About 2500-6000 Native Americans died on the Trail of Tears alone. That's not counting the total number of deaths throughout American History(which is very hard to calculate). Anyways.. I guess the point is that us Americans need to think twice before taking the moral high ground in all instances ourselves, seeing as we have committed genocide ourselves.

midnight rain · 02-29-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Abstract

I agree. As a matter of fact I do have a good percentage of Native American blood in me, but trying to find out what exact tribe is a whole other story. One thing that annoys me about us Americans is that we feel we have the right to morally judge other countries in the genocides they have committed. Yes, each country does deserve to be brought to justice for their crimes, but us Americans always take the high ground and act as if our history is 100% free from murder, and or genocide. What you said about the Indians is absolutely correct, The Trail of Tears is a perfect example. About 2500-6000 Native Americans died on the Trail of Tears alone. That's not counting the total number of deaths throughout American History(which is very hard to calculate). Anyways.. I guess the point is that us Americans need to think twice before taking the moral high ground in all instances ourselves, seeing as we have committed genocide ourselves.

I don't get your point. You say "we" as if some of us alive now (who take the moral high ground) are at fault for the Trail of Tears or enslavement of blacks.

Why are we responsible for this? I think I have the right to take the moral high ground on genocide in other countries because I have never been involved in the Trail of Tears or slavery. I find both genocide and slavery regardless of what country was involved equally despicable.

Blarobbarg · 02-29-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Abstract

I agree. As a matter of fact I do have a good percentage of Native American blood in me, but trying to find out what exact tribe is a whole other story. One thing that annoys me about us Americans is that we feel we have the right to morally judge other countries in the genocides they have committed. Yes, each country does deserve to be brought to justice for their crimes, but us Americans always take the high ground and act as if our history is 100% free from murder, and or genocide. What you said about the Indians is absolutely correct, The Trail of Tears is a perfect example. About 2500-6000 Native Americans died on the Trail of Tears alone. That's not counting the total number of deaths throughout American History(which is very hard to calculate). Anyways.. I guess the point is that us Americans need to think twice before taking the moral high ground in all instances ourselves, seeing as we have committed genocide ourselves.

First of all, I have never committed genocide.

Second of all, I am as disgusted with the horrors in America's past as I am about modern tragedies in other nations. They are abominations. I am not "forgetting that we committed genocide."

Thirdly. It is not wrong to get on a moral high ground when it is about GENOCIDE. Hell, are we supposed to say, "Well, that's bad and all, but our ancestors screwed up back then so we can't really judge you for killing a huge portion of your own population."

Does that sound correct in any way, shape, or form? No, because it is insane.

Americans are just as capable of committing atrocities as other nations, but that does not mean we need to cut people slack when they are killing/enslaving/starving another people.

I really hope that all makes sense.