midnight rain

You aren't choosing to go to work over sleeping in, it's your natural response to the given conditions. The decision that you would sleep in, in this example, is only an illusion.

Dr_Rez

Right, sleeping in = no food and shelter.

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TheBig3

Why do I feel like this is the long sell toward the new Anarchists party?

Alright so what you're saying is, given the environmental concerns, people don't really have a choice.

If that's the case, you should tell us when it ends. If you're suggesting we don't have the choice as to whether or not we go to work, what about hanging out with friends?

Do we not have a choice there? Do we have free will at certain points but not others. Where do the illusions end? If they never end, why would I blow off certain people one day but not another? If the illusions do end, what accounts for our ability to lose free will?

Plants have intelligence? What the hell does that mean?

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midnight rain

Humans are a social species who seek one another out, build cities together, etc. It's in our nature to stay close with those with common ground.

It's all situational. Feeling ill, tired of being around them, or any number of reasons.



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TheBig3

But people have worked through illness before. They've also decided "nah **** it, I'm calling in." You can't have both and say that people don't choose.



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Yeah, I was wrong about Anarchy. This is the upsell for Scientology.

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Lots of different outcomes factor into why humans react the way they do, and no one situation is the same, so it'd be unfair to pin one situation against the other when they have different setups going in.

Maybe a chronic skipper knew that they'd skipped work three days in a row already this month, and couldn't get away with skipping another.

^ It's a reaction based on logical thinking to produce what they believe to be the most desirable outcome.