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Exo 04-06-2012 09:12 PM

Here's a thought...
 
Does anybody think that we as a society are doing things and believing in things that will be frowned upon and shamed in the future?

For example...

Our people used to own slaves.
Women couldn't vote.
Homosexuality was COMPLETELY not allowed.
Even when slavery was abolished there was little civil rights.
Prohibition.

As a society we eventually came to our sense on these subjects but the way human history works is that it will never end. In 50 years we're going to look back and go "Wow were we in the wrong on that".

My question is what do you think that'll be?

Howard the Duck 04-07-2012 08:03 AM

panties watching - the shape and texture and fabric is so sexually alluring, women will part their skirts for men to watch in the future

Above 04-07-2012 08:12 AM

The dream is for a few generations down the line to look back and say "Wow, we really blew that whole gender thing out of proportion then, didn't we?"

Gender is an unnecessary construct.

Franco Pepe Kalle 04-07-2012 10:15 AM

The sad thing is that killing gays may still be around for a long time. In Uganda, there is another attempt to kill anyone who is a homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual. I found this out from a friend. That bill is called Kill the Gays bill. It is so disgusting and so inhumane.

My hope is that Killing Gays will be totally illegal.

Paedantic Basterd 04-07-2012 10:17 AM

I like to think about greek mythology, and that one day the holy bible will be looked upon in the same light.

Sparky 04-07-2012 11:58 AM

Having marijuana be illegal

Exo 04-07-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1175158)
The sad thing is that killing gays may still be around for a long time. In Uganda, there is another attempt to kill anyone who is a homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual. I found this out from a friend. That bill is called Kill the Gays bill. It is so disgusting and so inhumane.

My hope is that Killing Gays will be totally illegal.

Wonderfully creative name.

Mrd00d 04-07-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1175191)
Having marijuana be illegal

Came here to say this. And it will be the case, too. It's staring us right in the face. People will say "Can you believe this stuff used to be illegal? What were they thinking?" "I know, righ?, and what's funny is now it's mandatory! HA"

iluvwubs 04-07-2012 05:36 PM

criminalization of drugs
Organized religion
Allowing oil to monopolize certain aspects of the energy market
Not having regulation for reproduction
preventing medical research due to outdated moral concerns or to prevent competition for less effective, but more profitable and manageable medicines/practices
etc.

Burning Down 04-07-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1175191)
Having marijuana be illegal

Yeah, I would say that as well. I don't use marijuana (and nor do I care to ever use it - not for me at all), but the fact that it's still illegal is pretty ridiculous. As far as I know, it's never had a bad impact on society as a whole.

someonecompletelyrandom 04-15-2012 04:57 PM

Waiting far too long to do anything about climate change. There is no scholarly debate about the cause of global warming—99.9% of legitimate scientists warn that it is caused by human activity. Somewhere along the line it became a hot button political issue, and the American Right insists on pressuring and bemoaning the media for having a left-wing bias. This leads to a consistent attempt to "balance" things by reporting stories like "Many believe climate change is caused by human activity, but some disagree." and "The climate change debate continues."

This is not a political issue.

I don't give a fuck about restricting the perceived and ultimately relative liberties of Americans, and neither should you. This is for the greater good of humanity, not the greater good of the Republican or Democratic political party.

I myself came out of a religious culture in which the attitude was "God will fix it." Well, God isn't going to fix it, we need to fix it.

The apathy towards this issue in recent years makes me fucking sick.

Astronomer 04-19-2012 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1175120)
panties watching - the shape and texture and fabric is so sexually alluring, women will part their skirts for men to watch in the future

What the fuck? That is just fucking disgusting and not even funny in 'lighthearted' sexist way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Above (Post 1175121)
The dream is for a few generations down the line to look back and say "Wow, we really blew that whole gender thing out of proportion then, didn't we?"

Gender is an unnecessary construct.

I like your thinking. I was just about to say something similar!

Howard the Duck 04-19-2012 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 1179899)
What the fuck? That is just fucking disgusting and not even funny in 'lighthearted' sexist way.

i can see you're still "new" to me

it takes time

inilkintonjera 04-19-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1179900)
i can see you're still "new" to me

it takes time

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Just what is Initial Holy Communion? The word 'Communion' signifies to combine with. Economic crisis Communion is regarded as one of several holiest occasions in addition to the most essential event within a Catholic's existence. This implies than a person in Catholic has received the Sacrament of this Eucharist, the system and blood of Jesus Christ at mass.



You've got to end up being absolved on the sins and obtain communion. In most cases, young children make their very first confession just before communion, the place that the priest provides each and every kid a penance. Usually penance incorporates a handful of prayers which may have to become mentioned after a session.



To acquire 1st communion, the Catholic kid has to be baptized. Following baptism, children start making ready regarding certain 1st Communion as a result of Catechism classes, considering they don't visit a Catholic school. Right after about 2 a lot of study, the little one is in the position to receive their To begin with Communion.

Astronomer 04-19-2012 02:06 AM

I am so confused.

Howard the Duck 04-19-2012 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 1179914)
I am so confused.

he's basically saying I'm like the Jesus Christ of upskirts

and you have to partake in the Communion by eating a wafer with me

mr dave 04-19-2012 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1175038)
In 50 years we're going to look back and go "Wow were we in the wrong on that".

My question is what do you think that'll be?

prohibition / the war on drugs
foreign policy
economic disparity

but most of all... I think the main thing is technological disparity. I saw a blurb recently about how even at this point, with as much variance in wealth between individuals, 77% of the global population has a mobile phone. I'm part of the 23% who doesn't, but that still blows my mind that so many people who would technically be poor as dirt somehow manage to have a mobile phone (that normally has a monthly fee of sorts attached).

So yeah, in 50 years, I think looking back the main thing will be a reflection of how old fashioned some of us still were as compared to what will be considered the base line of 'necessary' technology.

That, and weed, but at least Stephen Harper finally acknowledged that the war on drugs wasn't working earlier this week. No announcements on amendments yet but at least they're owning up to its failure.

Howard the Duck 04-19-2012 07:26 AM

i think in the future, people will solve the mystery of an afterlife or just life ending just like that

we actually become soundwaves when we die

The Fascinating Turnip 04-19-2012 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 1179914)
I am so confused.

Nice to see you're back, Lateralus!
About Howard, you're better off ignoring him.

Guybrush 04-19-2012 07:36 AM

I think corporal punishment will become illegal in more countries in the future and more people will think "Gosh, we used to beat kids? How awful".

Stephen 04-19-2012 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1179980)
i think in the future, people will solve the mystery of an afterlife or just life ending just like that

we actually become soundwaves when we die

LOL. Why do I imagine our bodies deflating in a flatulent emission from some undiscovered sphincter that acts as a portal to eternal life.

ladyislingering 04-21-2012 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvwubs (Post 1175311)
criminalization of drugs
Organized religion
Allowing oil to monopolize certain aspects of the energy market
Not having regulation for reproduction
preventing medical research due to outdated moral concerns or to prevent competition for less effective, but more profitable and manageable medicines/practices
etc.

all of this.

We can understand today why certain drugs are very, very bad. But society needs to learn to heal the addicts and counsel the dealers to keep the "hard" drugs (meth, cocaine, heroin, etc.) away from people whose lives are destroyed by these substances. There is no sense in criminalizing people with addiction.

Do you mean, "regulation of reproduction" will someday be regarded as foolish? Because I agree, fully, damn the government for thinking they have any right to regulate what goes on with women. It isn't their damn business. My opinion is, if you want children, have 'em. If you don't, abort 'em and learn your lesson. Abortion is not to be used as regular birth control but it shouldn't be illegal either. Besides, I have successfully destroyed unwanted intruders without abortion before. Women should be allowed to control their reproductive organs. Not a government run by a bunch of male chauvinists that want to control women.

I love how you mentioned discarding old school "morals" for the sake of medical research. Society needs to get its stuff together so we can find a cure for cancer, at the expense of the expendable. I fully believe this.

Also I wonder if eugenics will ever be considered an acceptable process.

Guybrush 04-21-2012 04:08 AM

Criminalization of drugs does make sense. After all, if someone who would otherwise become an addict lives in a society where there are no drugs, then he or she would not become a drug addict and keeping drugs away from society could then be cheaper on society in many aspects than rehabilitating addicts would be.

It only fails when "anti societal" forces make drugs available despite prohibition. I call them anti societal because the best thing would be for society to be drug free (at least of hard drugs), yet they make that optimal solution a near impossibility for their selfish want to make money on drugs.

Perhaps keeping society drug free in the future will be more viable than it is today.

anticipation 04-21-2012 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1180755)
Criminalization of drugs does make sense. After all, if someone who would otherwise become an addict lives in a society where there are no drugs, then he or she would not become a drug addict and keeping drugs away from society could then be cheaper on society in many aspects than rehabilitating addicts would be.

It only fails when "anti societal" forces make drugs available despite prohibition. I call them anti societal because the best thing would be for society to be drug free (at least of hard drugs), yet they make that optimal solution a near impossibility for their selfish want to make money on drugs.

Perhaps keeping society drug free in the future will be more viable than it is today.

This is one of the most asinine and completely unrealistic statements I've ever heard. Prohibition works in theory, but never in practice? Really? Are you fucking kidding me?

Guybrush 04-21-2012 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1180756)
This is one of the most asinine and completely unrealistic statements I've ever heard. Prohibition works in theory, but never in practice? Really? Are you fucking kidding me?

:rolleyes:

Hurr durr

Howard the Duck 04-21-2012 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1180740)
Do you mean, "regulation of reproduction" will someday be regarded as foolish? Because I agree, fully, damn the government for thinking they have any right to regulate what goes on with women. It isn't their damn business. My opinion is, if you want children, have 'em. If you don't, abort 'em and learn your lesson. Abortion is not to be used as regular birth control but it shouldn't be illegal either. Besides, I have successfully destroyed unwanted intruders without abortion before. Women should be allowed to control their reproductive organs. Not a government run by a bunch of male chauvinists that want to control women.

I love how you mentioned discarding old school "morals" for the sake of medical research. Society needs to get its stuff together so we can find a cure for cancer, at the expense of the expendable. I fully believe this.

Also I wonder if eugenics will ever be considered an acceptable process.

abortion and probably euthanasia won't be much of an issue in the future, I believe, with the human over-population

neither will using live subjects for medical and scientific research, if they were gonna die anyway

Lilja 04-21-2012 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1175038)
Does anybody think that we as a society are doing things and believing in things that will be frowned upon and shamed in the future?

For example...

Our people used to own slaves.
Women couldn't vote.
Homosexuality was COMPLETELY not allowed.
Even when slavery was abolished there was little civil rights.
Prohibition.

As a society we eventually came to our sense on these subjects but the way human history works is that it will never end. In 50 years we're going to look back and go "Wow were we in the wrong on that".

My question is what do you think that'll be?


I would think that what would be more frowned upon in the future are the societies that refuse to admit that most of the subjects mentioned go on somewhere in the world (or maybe in their own backyard..such as the slave trade. )or perhaps acknowledge it but little to nothing is done because it is thought of in the terms "that is their problem, they need to deal with it..it doesn't affect us really." Just a thought.

The Fascinating Turnip 04-21-2012 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1180756)
This is one of the most asinine and completely unrealistic statements I've ever heard. Prohibition works in theory, but never in practice? Really? Are you fucking kidding me?

Does this mean that you think prohibition works in practice? Or are you just up for cheap insults?

Howard the Duck 04-21-2012 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unchained Ballad (Post 1180774)
Does this mean that you think prohibition works in practice? Or are you just up for cheap insults?

anticipation and tore are having some sort of feud

it started in the "Official Funny Picture Thread" over some scientific matter (of all things)

Guybrush 04-21-2012 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1180777)
anticipation and tore are having some sort of feud

it started in the "Official Funny Picture Thread" over some scientific matter (of all things)

Yeah. I thought it ended in that thread, but it seems it didn't.

someonecompletelyrandom 04-21-2012 06:50 AM

I'm not one to discourage discussion, but honestly the drug prohibition thing has been done to death. There are many more social issues that could be tackled.

mr dave 04-21-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1180740)
Also I wonder if eugenics will ever be considered an acceptable process.

REALLY? You do realize Eugenics is one of the angles HITLER used to justify the holocaust right?

Better question, how do you feel about Planned Parenthood? That kind of group is about as close to a moderate and sane application of eugenics to society as we've got at the moment.

Personally, I'd rather not be forcibly sterilized, hospitalized, and be removed from the gene pool and public stage because I have a minor physical disability where one of my eyes cannot be corrected to 20/20 vision so that our society can present a more perfect reflection of humanity in public.

:banghead:

Franco Pepe Kalle 04-21-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1180759)
abortion and probably euthanasia won't be much of an issue in the future, I believe, with the human over-population

neither will using live subjects for medical and scientific research, if they were gonna die anyway

I disagree. Aborton will still be a big issue as you have many people who want no aborton allowed.

Howard the Duck 04-21-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1180807)
I disagree. Aborton will still be a big issue as you have many people who want no aborton allowed.

i think your parents might disagree and have since regretted it

Astronomer 04-21-2012 08:33 AM

I wonder how much of an issue renewable energy/environmental pursuits/water supply etc will be in the future... I know over here we have huge debates about things like desalination plants and other similar endeavours, I wonder if in the future we will look back on the huge debates and arguments surrounding this issue and find it absurd. Like I wonder if we will ever wonder why anyone would want to argue against these things, given that preserving the environment will probably more of an issue in years to come...

anticipation 04-21-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unchained Ballad (Post 1180774)
Does this mean that you think prohibition works in practice? Or are you just up for cheap insults?

Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."

James 04-21-2012 10:35 AM

Homophobia, and the fact that gay marriage is still not legal in places will be the big one I think.
The gender gap. The fact that women can get paid less for the same job that a man does.

Guybrush 04-21-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1180854)
Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."

How effective prohibition is depends on environment and circumstance such as the availability of drugs and how the drug culture is. My point is we don't know how those circumstances are in the future and so prohibition could be viable. A lot of people just seem to assume it won't be.

And for the record, prohibition works just fine in present day Norway.

midnight rain 04-21-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1180854)
Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."

Very effective use of hyperbole, because you know there's no middle ground in there! Very convincing argument!

And yeah, cut it with the insults. You can stop acting the genius in a room full of idiots, no one thinks it's as black and white as you're postulating.

ladyislingering 04-21-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1180759)
abortion and probably euthanasia won't be much of an issue in the future, I believe, with the human over-population

neither will using live subjects for medical and scientific research, if they were gonna die anyway

Perhaps people will sell their bodies to science to help pay for their funeral costs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1180803)
REALLY? You do realize Eugenics is one of the angles HITLER used to justify the holocaust right?

Better question, how do you feel about Planned Parenthood? That kind of group is about as close to a moderate and sane application of eugenics to society as we've got at the moment.

Personally, I'd rather not be forcibly sterilized, hospitalized, and be removed from the gene pool and public stage because I have a minor physical disability where one of my eyes cannot be corrected to 20/20 vision so that our society can present a more perfect reflection of humanity in public.

:banghead:

I didn't say it was my idea, but society is definitely headed down a road of "everyone must be perfect clones of the other and there's a million things wrong with you even if you're perfect".

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1180817)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1180807)
I disagree. Aborton will still be a big issue as you have many people who want no aborton allowed.

i think your parents might disagree and have since regretted it

:clap:


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