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Unknown Soldier 07-22-2012 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1210887)
Shootings are definitely on the rise, and it's been awhile since I've actually bothered to look at the data so it very may well be flipped around now. I can't speak for the rest of the country (or at last not until "the device" is completed) but a lot of the gangs in B.C. are getting their weapons from the U.S. through pot trading. We've definitely had some big time shooting stories, like last year's killing of Jonathan Bacon or the previous 2009 gang war that saw a big increase in gang violence.
I find it hard to believe that Canada wouldn't have access to a load of guns, I would imagine that the border with the US is pretty porous and it's also a large area for border controls to cover.

Janszoon 07-22-2012 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1210900)
I am not for gun control.
Sure you are. Unless you think people with zero safety training and no background checks should be free to build unregistered arsenals of howitzers and helicopter-mounted machine guns, you support some kind of gun control.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-22-2012 04:59 AM
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Make guns illegal and that keeps the honest American from protecting his family when some criminal breaks into their house with a gun, or any other situation of the same nature. I really don't see what's so difficult to understand about it.
Never really understood this reasoning.
If anything if someone breaks into your house and you put an extra gun into the mix I would have thought all that would do is escalate the tension & make things more unsafe, not protect you.

Unknown Soldier 07-22-2012 05:14 AM
If I was living in the USA now, how easy would it be for me to buy a gun? Do I just walk into a hardware store and provide them with some documentation and then I get registered etc and then they sell me the gun? Also is it the same in every state?

Burning Down 07-22-2012 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1210945)
I find it hard to believe that Canada wouldn't have access to a load of guns, I would imagine that the border with the US is pretty porous and it's also a large area for border controls to cover.
Almost all illegal guns used here are smuggled in from the US. Only a small number of them are actually registered and legally owned.

Janszoon 07-22-2012 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1210958)
If I was living in the USA now, how easy would it be for me to buy a gun? Do I just walk into a hardware store and provide them with some documentation and then I get registered etc and then they sell me the gun? Also is it the same in every state?
The laws are very different from state to state, as is the attitude toward guns.

Unknown Soldier 07-22-2012 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1210967)
Almost all illegal guns used here are smuggled in from the US. Only a small number of them are actually registered and legally owned.
Never realized that, but I guess if you want the gun for possible criminal activities you wouldn't want to be registered.

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The laws are very different from state to state, as is the attitude toward guns.
That's interesting, for example what are considered gun pro-states and which states are more opposed to them?

Janszoon 07-22-2012 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1210969)
That's interesting, for example what are considered gun pro-states and which states are more opposed to them?
When I think pro-gun, I usually think of places like Texas, Louisiana, Arizona or Montana. When I think anti-gun, I think of places like New York, New Jersey, Illinois or California. With few exceptions, the split is a conservative vs. liberal state split or an urban vs. rural state split.

Unknown Soldier 07-22-2012 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1210974)
When I think pro-gun, I usually think of places like Texas, Louisiana, Arizona or Montana. When I think anti-gun, I think of places like New York, New Jersey, Illinois or California. With few exceptions, the split is a conservative vs. liberal state split or an urban vs. rural state split.
Hip Hop Bunny's from Montana and he likes guns.

Now when you say liberal and conservative states, which one of these are anti-gun?

Janszoon 07-22-2012 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1210990)
Hip Hop Bunny's from Montana and he likes guns.
Yep, I think the majority of people in Montana do. It's a conservative, rural state.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1210990)
Now when you say liberal and conservative states, which one of these are anti-gun?
Liberal states generally have more gun restrictions and anti-gun sentiment than conservative states.


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