'Dark Knight Rises' screening shooting in suburban Denver (12 dead, 38 wounded)
 

'Dark Knight Rises' screening shooting in suburban Denver leaves 12 dead, 38 wounded: police - NY Daily News

Horrible. Supposedly one of the victims had narrowly avoided being at that mall shooting in Toronto too.

Yeah, she was an aspiring sportscaster. Apparently the last thing she wrote about was the Eaton Centre shooting.

Really sad news, these shootings always bother me because there's just something so unfair and random about them. My heart goes out to the families of the victims.

Take it to PM's you two.

It really is a horrific and senselessly violent affair. From what it sounds like, (obviously the shooter had to be loony to do something so drastic) the shooter might have been attempting to be a Batman villain, but without the class and suspense.

Does this event mean that the film will forever be attached to the shootings? It's something that fans have been looking forward to for so long and I'm sure that it'll still go down as a classic, but this tragedy will always be in the back of my mind when I watch it.

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wow.

This is really unbelievable. I can't imagine being there. There's just really no way to know when someone is going to bust in, wherever you are, with a gun and start killing people. It's insane.

The rumors have already begun, this was a so called "manchurian candidate", used to push the ban of firearms.

:rolleyes:

Or he was just a crazy bastard.

This incident is certainly going to be reason to support to ban of firearms, though.

He apparently told the police he was "The Joker" and also boobytrapped his apartment with explosives, so I think he was a nutjob. Not a political radical. Although sometimes there's a fine line between the two.

Only as much as every other incident where someone shoots a whole bunch of people is.

That's true. And each incident will just continue to be another reason.

Really sh*tty situation. But I'm still going see Batman tomorrow.

Theater manager here...

There are police in our lobby and nobody is allowed in with a batman mask or costume. Being in the business for six years doesn't have me scared because I think something will happen here, but it just makes it ever so easy to put myself in that situation. I've been freaked out all day. So far a normal night with considerable losses to Batman attendance.

****ed up **** man. I feel for the families.

If it were to happen at another showing, what would be the theory then?

A good reason if you ask me, but I've already debated this enough on another forum and don't want to derail the thread.

My thoughts go out to the victims and families. I went to TDKR earlier today and it felt pretty eerie watching that gunfight scene, knowing what went down in Colorado.

Really thankful no one I know was hurt or killed last night. I lived in Aurora for two and a half years, I've driven past this mall literally dozens of times in that span and two of my best friends in the world live only about 5 minutes away. Luckily they're broke stoners who don't go out very often.

Just read that he lived at 17th and Paris. I lived at 17th and Jamaica. 11 blocks. What a small fucking world.

It's amazing sometimes how close some seriously heavy things can be sometimes. I remember feeling like that around...well...9/11. I don't mean to derail this though...glad everybody is okay.

Crazy to think that I was watching that movie at the exact same time they were when this happened. As awful a thing as this is, I'm not entirely shocked. If you're a crazy sociopathic killer, a dark and crowded theater is almost too ideal. I'm actually a bit surprised that something like this hasn't happened before.

I wonder how much this will affect security measures in theaters across the country.

Also, as most of you probably know, this trailer has been pulled everywhere. I wonder if it'll make people apprehensive about seeing it when it finally comes out.
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Man, poor fucking Colorado right now.

I'm not really shocked either. But then again, most events of this nature make me wonder why they haven't happened before, especially after watching that trailer (I think it was a good call to pull it, but I think the movie's turnout will likely suffer). It's just awful. When things like these occur, there's always a ripple effect- really makes you think.

And Colorado has definitely been hit with an unnatural amount of turmoil lately :(

I was having a discussion about this earlier today. I may be alone in this opinion, but I think if a person is allowed to wield a firearm, they should undergo psychiatric check ups every few months to make sure the person with the gun can safely handle it. I saw people mentioning the ban on firearms, and I am all for that as well.

I also express my thoughts towards the victims of the shooting. I feel bad for the families.

You know this isn't something you can stop from happening in society.. People have always massacred other people and this is another situation where someone wanted to kill a handful of people for no reason.. What did Alfred say in the second Batman movie?

"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."

When you look at history, the greatest mass murderers have always been very powerful people, leaders, emperors, generals and they all had something none of us have today.. Women.. Look at Henry VIII, Alexander the Great, The Saxons, Genghis Khan, Hitler.. They killed millions, that bloodline passes down and I am afraid to say it is just in our DNA...

It doesn't mean we should have pat-downs and crap like that at Movie Theaters, they already rape us at airports.. I work at a grocery store, anyone could come in and kill me at anytime, it's been done before actually, we've had night employees walk outside and get robbed at gun-point, I don't have a firearm at work, we're not allowed.. Should grocery stores have extra security and pat-downs? Will outlawing firearms stop people who want to do harm to others from getting them? Absolutely not, it will never work.. Norway is a prime example of this..

So I went into the booth today and nabbed me a copy of the Gangster Squad trailer. I think it's eventually going to be a rare piece of film down the road. They'll probably never show that footage again.

What I'm about to say is a bit biased because I'm from the UK, but I essentially agree with this. My own opinion is that the whole "freedom to bear arms" idea you Americans love so much can be far more danger than benefit, because ultimately I disagree with people being free to be able to kill people wherever they go, and the fact that virtually anyone can have access to such dangerous weapons is a point of reasonable concern.
You can complain that a "heated dispute" is heading our way, perhaps that's not such a bad thing.

That's always been a debate here in the UK, that the heavy restriction on hand guns should always be enforced, as the UK shouldn't have a gun society like the USA.

We have a knife culture here, but you can't go on a huge killing spree just armed with a knife.

I as well don't see any good in allowing someone to purchase and being allowed to wield a firearm. There are other not so deadly ways that someone can protect themselves, like with a tazer or pepper spray. In my honest opinion, I think when somebody has access to a gun, they are essentially showing their weakness through it, and proving that the only way they can control a situation is to kill someone.

That's pretty much the same thing in Canada, if you were to take the amount of stabbings that happen on a national level, then factor in the population difference, I'm sure the numbers would be similar to the amount of shooting reports in the US. It's not that we're more peaceful, we just have different ways of killing each other.

Am I the only one who would rather be shot than stabbed? I feel you die slower when stabbed.

Before you generalize my entire country like this again I'd just like to point out that 45% of Americans favor stricter gun control. In other words, the total number of Americans who don't fit your stereotype is nearly three times the entire population of the UK.

I'm a grad student and I can safely say that I'm surprised the stress doesn't drive more people to go insane and do something like this. It isn't a setup, I'm sure the guy was genuinely disturbed.

Really? I hear more about shootings than stabbings :|

Shootings are definitely on the rise, and it's been awhile since I've actually bothered to look at the data so it very may well be flipped around now. I can't speak for the rest of the country (or at last not until "the device" is completed) but a lot of the gangs in B.C. are getting their weapons from the U.S. through pot trading. We've definitely had some big time shooting stories, like last year's killing of Jonathan Bacon or the previous 2009 gang war that saw a big increase in gang violence.

I was a bit curious about gun related deaths here in the U.S., so I decided to Wiki it. We're 17th in homicides, but we're 2nd in suicides. So, I guess we're more apt to point a gun at ourselves than at another person.

Well since the subject has already been changed...

I am not for gun control. Make guns illegal, how is that going to stop anyone from being killed? It's against the law to kill someone, does that stop criminals from doing it? Do laws stop criminals from doing anything? Of course not. Whether or not guns are legal or illegal, people will still get them, mostly criminals, and this puts more power in the hands of criminals... and cops. And since when aren't there corrupt cops?

Make guns illegal and that keeps the honest American from protecting his family when some criminal breaks into their house with a gun, or any other situation of the same nature. I really don't see what's so difficult to understand about it.


I agree with this guy.


But clearly there is something I'm missing and I'm sure I'll hear about it.

I don't know why this would lead to a conversation on guns when its not going to lead to a conversation on tear gas, gas masks, hair dye, or grad school.

Someone who was mentally disturbed did something illegal. If anything, we should fund more greatly mental health facilities and options, and we should have a reference check (with reference provided) for these individuals.

I remember applying for a job once where we had to provide references, one of which was a family member, because (this was a job with children) family members were more inclined to raise a red flag if they felt it was wrong. Well, why not with guns and these people? Most of them don't have 10 friends to write down anyway.

I am so disturbed by this, but as Alfred said it's not surprising. I teared up when I heard a guy shielded his girlfriend and her brother from being killed but died himself. Such heroism, even when his life was at stake. :(

In terms of gun control, I think some common sense is needed here. Being from New Zealand I have no experience living in an environment full of guns but I think if there was a law against civilians owning guns that could be used in mass murder, it might get better. But it's none of my business really and I'm certainly no expert.