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The Batlord · 10-31-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

I'd remind you when most people say they support "non-violence", in this culture, they're lying. What most people consider as violence is only that which falls outside the intersection of officially sanctioned violence & popularly supported violence.

Calling the police on someone is an act of violence, incarcerating someone is an act of violence, and taxation is an act of violence. What differentiates these from smacking girls is the level of popularity of each & the lack or presence of official sanctioning.

Hierarchy is based on inequality of power and the greater the hierarchy, the greater the inequality. In other words, hierarchy is based on violence & the threat of violence.

Now, yes, there is a dialectic between compassion & terror in such hierarchys; however, what you're ignoring is that the compassion was community specific, and that the notion of compassion for everyone the world over is entirelly new and rooted in Christian superstition.

The difference is that power structures based on some threat of violence reinforce society, whereas allowing anybody with bigger muscles to pick on the weak undermine society. I mean...duh.

hip hop bunny hop · 11-01-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

The difference is that power structures based on some threat of violence reinforce society, whereas allowing anybody with bigger muscles to pick on the weak undermine society. I mean...duh.

It has the potential to undermine society it such "pick[ing] on" goes against how that society is set up. All hierarchical societies are based on exploiting the weak, whether those within their own society (see slavery) or those without (see imperialism).

This is why notions that the Romans (or any other ancient civilization, really) had some sort of universal compassion is absurd. Consider that violence in these societies often had an economic role (such as in imperialism & slavery), as well as a cultural component - such as in the coliseum, for example.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

So you think governments in democracies sanction violence on their own population?

Of course democracies sanction violence against their own. How would you characterize what happens to prisoners as anything but violent? Or do people cease to be part of the population the moment they are incarcerated?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-01-2012, 10:33 AM

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Or do people cease to be part of the population the moment they are incarcerated?

Is it wrong that I laughed when I saw that someone who I've seen insult virtually every minority out there was asking this question.

hip hop bunny hop · 11-01-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger ?

Is it wrong that I laughed when I saw that someone who I've seen insult virtually every minority out there was asking this question.

I'm glad you found it almost as enjoyable as I did,