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Old 02-28-2013, 10:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So someone whos family is murdered by a serial killer becomes a serial killer? Because I lived with my dad almost my entire childhood, factors into why I do nice things for my Mother? I think you're reading too much into motive when there are simply things people do because they want to do it with no underlying motive whatsoever.
Uh what? I'm not even sure what you were trying to get across with your serial killer hypothetical. If you were trying to say that I was saying we simply mime everything we see, then no. That's a gross simplification of the process.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Uh what? I'm not even sure what you were trying to get across with your serial killer hypothetical. If you were trying to say that I was saying we simply mime everything we see, then no. That's a gross simplification of the process.
Well it seems your grossly simplifying the human race. Not everything has to have motive in the World.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well it seems your grossly simplifying the human race. Not everything has to have motive in the World.
No that's you. You don't seem to be looking at the reasons why human actions might have evolved like they have over the last few billion years. Do you think altruism just came about for no apparent reason? It would only evolve if it had a pragmatic use for our survival. You didn't give your mother money for no reason. You did it because of millions of years of evolutionary conditioning that decided that helping one's mother is in your best interest.
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No that's you. You don't seem to be looking at the reasons why human actions might have evolved like they have over the last few billion years. Do you think altruism just came about for no apparent reason? It would only evolve if it had a pragmatic use for our survival. You didn't give your mother money for no reason. You did it because of millions of years of evolutionary conditioning that decided that helping one's mother is in your best interest.
No not really I did it because I had extra money in my account and she asked me to borrow it, but if it helps you to think that evolution played a part by all means.
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No not really I did it because I had extra money in my account and she asked me to borrow it, but if it helps you to think that evolution played a part by all means.
Now you're just not even trying to see my point.
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Now you're just not even trying to see my point.
No I actually I did look at your point. I'm not ignoring what you're saying and theres clearly some merit to how evolution has shaped our beliefs. I just disagree with the notion that their is motive to every nice thing people do for one another. I'm not denying that it happens, i'm just saying there isn't always a motive to everything and or practiced thought.
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