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Scarlett O'Hara 04-23-2013 01:30 AM

The Rules of Etiquette
 
I want to discuss the perhaps considered 'old fashioned' rules of etiquette. Are there any particular rules you like to follow? Do you think etiquette is still relevant in modern society? Is it considered to PC now to behave an expected way, even if it makes someone else happy? To a varying degree there has to be some rules, for example not making a scene in front of your friend in a shop. I may have done that recently and regretted it. :p:

My second thought is the following. I think this comes under the same topic. I was fantasizing today how I would love to be able to experience having a man open a door for me, pull my seat out at a restaurant and offer a space on the bus. I think it's such a cool courtesy that I believe men would benefit from too. Because, if a man was to do something like that for me, I would thank him, ask him about his day and perhaps consider him worth meeting again.

A great website for you to learn more about the rules of etiquette is:

Emily Post Etiquette Daily

RoxyRollah 04-23-2013 01:43 AM

the first and only book I have ever read on manners was modern manners by pj o'rouke....
it was extreamly helpful as well as hilarious..I now know how to
**** up and excuse myself afterwards...

RoxyRollah 04-23-2013 01:56 AM

on the second note yes opening doors for you classy
helping you into a chair classy...
ordering for you control freak...
there is a fine line between old school
class...and taking away my new school independance
I feel like everyone should have been taught manners but
sadly this isn't the case....cruise through any establishment in the us
nowadays and it is very apperent..we could use some grooming

and on the question you posed to me in a different thred
a lady never reveals her age...haha. ;-)

Neapolitan 04-23-2013 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1310191)
I want to discuss the perhaps considered 'old fashioned' rules of etiquette. Are there any particular rules you like to follow? Do you think etiquette is still relevant in modern society?

Maybe there is need for etiquette in the royal court of England. Like do not speak to the queen first, wait until the queen speaks to you talk first. Carole Middleton, the mother of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, made that faux pas in the carriage after the wedding. The queen was all out of sorts, thinking "Where's the manners on this"? "She's a lively one, I wish she shut her pie hole." I think that is the difference between having etiquette and not having etiquette. You can be a negative Nancy on the inside but if you don't say what you think no one can call you on it. I think if you're not part of any royal court, and you're just a plain commoner as long as your are kind and friendly you don't have to worry too much about etiquette.

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1310191)
Is it considered to PC now to behave an expected way, even if it makes someone else happy?

:confused:

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1310191)
To a varying degree there has to be some rules, for example not making a scene in front of your friend in a shop. I may have done that recently and regretted it. :p:

My second thought is the following. I think this comes under the same topic. I was fantasizing today how I would love to be able to experience having a man open a door for me, pull my seat out at a restaurant and offer a space on the bus. I think it's such a cool courtesy that I believe men would benefit from too. Because, if a man was to do something like that for me, I would thank him, ask him about his day and perhaps consider him worth meeting again.

A great website for you to learn more about the rules of etiquette is:

Emily Post Etiquette Daily

I'll hold the door for you any day.

Janszoon 04-23-2013 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1310191)
My second thought is the following. I think this comes under the same topic. I was fantasizing today how I would love to be able to experience having a man open a door for me, pull my seat out at a restaurant and offer a space on the bus. I think it's such a cool courtesy that I believe men would benefit from too. Because, if a man was to do something like that for me, I would thank him, ask him about his day and perhaps consider him worth meeting again.

I hold the door for all people, whether they have ovaries or not. And I'll give up my seat on the bus or train to anyone who looks likes they'd have trouble standing but again ovaries don't come into play one way or the other. I believe good etiquette is a world where all people do these things for each other, regardless of gender.

djchameleon 04-23-2013 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1310214)
I believe good etiquette is a world where all people do these things for each other, regardless of gender.

I agree.

I've even had instances where I held the door open for a few people to pass through and then a female comes back and snarks at me that she doesn't need me holding the door for her. I'm like okay and just go about my business and think to myself that she's probably one to complain that chivalry and etiquette is dead but turns around and acts like that. It doesn't matter to me.

Newkie 04-23-2013 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1310214)
I hold the door for all people, whether they have ovaries or not. And I'll give up my seat on the bus or train to anyone who looks likes they'd have trouble standing but again ovaries don't come into play one way or the other. I believe good etiquette is a world where all people do these things for each other, regardless of gender.

This, basically. Although, it would be nice to know an acceptable distance of when not to hold the door open for people. I suppose I usually give them 10-15 metres, with 10 for men and 15 for females, where appropriate.

It can cause problems though, as I work in a fairly large building and if you happen to follow someone through 15 sets of doors while they hold it for you, you kind of run out of things to say...Cheers...Thanks...Ta...before having to revert to a curt nod for the rest of the journey. Perhaps there should be some etiquette for responding...

Cuthbert 04-23-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1310214)
I hold the door for all people, whether they have ovaries or not. And I'll give up my seat on the bus or train to anyone who looks likes they'd have trouble standing but again ovaries don't come into play one way or the other. I believe good etiquette is a world where all people do these things for each other, regardless of gender.

This. It's just manners.

CrazyVegn 04-23-2013 01:00 PM

Yes, absolutely. Men always open doors for me and carry anything over 20 lbs out to my car (like giant boxes of litter) or do the furniture. You might will see this more often (especially w/ car doors and seat pulling) in the southern United States than the northern, for example.
What has bothered me today is my husband farting and burping at the dinner table at least twice each while we were eating. I guess it's different when it is just us but STILL. And IDK if I should really say anything bc I let out a long burp but after he left the table.

:nono:

RoxyRollah 04-23-2013 01:06 PM

I live down south and people don't help me to my car... and I am not sure I want them too... I know the Bundy routine....

Janszoon 04-23-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyVegn (Post 1310338)
Yes, absolutely. Men always open doors for me and carry anything over 20 lbs out to my car (like giant boxes of litter) or do the furniture. You might will see this more often (especially w/ car doors and seat pulling) in the southern United States than the northern, for example.
What has bothered me today is my husband farting and burping at the dinner table at least twice each while we were eating. I guess it's different when it is just us but STILL. And IDK if I should really say anything bc I let out a long burp but after he left the table.

:nono:

Southern men "do" the furniture? :laughing:

CrazyVegn 04-23-2013 01:22 PM

^:finger: LOL

RoxyRollah 04-23-2013 02:19 PM

oo ooo ooo pick me I have a question.... is it wrong to send out invations to a shower on index cards...? I was thinking about that after this chick's boyfriend handed it to me at work... I asked him "sooo if I go to this address written here am I going to get mugged..." because it was an address and nothing else...

FRED HALE SR. 04-23-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1310373)
oo ooo ooo pick me I have a question.... is it wrong to send out invations to a shower on index cards...? I was thinking about that after this chick's boyfriend handed it to me at work... I asked him "sooo if I go to this address written here am I going to get mugged..." because it was an address and nothing else...

Index cards? What kind of cheap horse**** is that.

djchameleon 04-23-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1310373)
oo ooo ooo pick me I have a question.... is it wrong to send out invations to a shower on index cards...? I was thinking about that after this chick's boyfriend handed it to me at work... I asked him "sooo if I go to this address written here am I going to get mugged..." because it was an address and nothing else...

Were you expecting monogrammed invites? Times are hard man!

RoxyRollah 04-23-2013 02:47 PM

no doll just something to tell me what it was for... seriously I was concerned... and invite that reads


112 Ocean Avenue
Amityville
7pm
on an index card creeped me out... just a touch... I just thought maybe a little more effort would have been a touch more polite...

FRED HALE SR. 04-23-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1310398)
no doll just something to tell me what it was for... seriously I was concerned... and invite that reads


112 Ocean Avenue
Amityville
7pm
on an index card creeped me out... just a touch... I just thought maybe a little more effort would have been a touch more polite...

Amityville? WTF you better watch your back.

RoxyRollah 04-23-2013 02:56 PM

I know things might get crazy...

No that was for shock value...because that is the first thing that popped into my demented mind...

FRED HALE SR. 04-23-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1310413)
I know things might get crazy...

No that was for shock value...because that is the first thing that popped into my demented mind...

Generally showers include a card, note with places you can purchase presents and a map to get you there. Who cheaps out on a shower.

RoxyRollah 04-23-2013 03:10 PM

I'm sayin... sooo yeah I'm not sure I should accept...for fear of impending doom

CrazyVegn 04-23-2013 03:23 PM

Yes, Roxy, the least they could've done is decorate the index card or get them w/out the lines :) At the very least write in pink or blue. .

RoxyRollah 04-23-2013 03:25 PM

thank you... I am not holding it against people.. times are tight I dig it...but a little effort will you? And now I have to go through the effort of finding a gender neutral gift.. puke... am I going.. absolutely because I have manners... I don't even like this chick but I have manners... I'll also be strapped with a baseball bat... but leave it in my car...

in case things get crazy...

anticipation 04-23-2013 05:51 PM

I live by the code of the streets, that's sort of like etiquette right mafuckas?

Sansa Stark 04-23-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1310200)
Maybe there is need for etiquette in the royal court of England. Like do not speak to the queen first, wait until the queen speaks to you talk first. Carole Middleton, the mother of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, made that faux pas in the carriage after the wedding. The queen was all out of sorts, thinking "Where's the manners on this"? "She's a lively one, I wish she shut her pie hole." I think that is the difference between having etiquette and not having etiquette. You can be a negative Nancy on the inside but if you don't say what you think no one can call you on it. I think if you're not part of any royal court, and you're just a plain commoner as long as your are kind and friendly you don't have to worry too much about etiquette.

Perfectly said, I feel exactly the same way, and I always try to be as "rude" as possible, burping, talking about who I wanna ****, talking about farting cause it's ****ing hilarious when you contrast it when my hyperfeminine looks. "Etiquette" is just another subjugation of women especially, and I ain't havin it. It bears no importance of who I am as a human being.

Freebase Dali 04-23-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1310501)
Perfectly said, I feel exactly the same way, and I always try to be as "rude" as possible, burping, talking about who I wanna ****, talking about farting cause it's ****ing hilarious when you contrast it when my hyperfeminine looks. "Etiquette" is just another subjugation of women especially, and I ain't havin it. It bears no importance of who I am as a human being.

Which is why you work for a sexual fetish hotline?

Sansa Stark 04-23-2013 06:09 PM

No I work for a sexual fetish hotline cause I love money and I hate work

Freebase Dali 04-23-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1310503)
No I work for a sexual fetish hotline cause I love money and I hate work

Ok. Just checking. I was assuming the subjugation thing wasn't all that important anyway. Just wanted to make sure.

Sansa Stark 04-23-2013 06:11 PM

I'll give you the number if you want, baby <3

Freebase Dali 04-23-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1310505)
I'll give you the number if you want, baby <3

How much do you charge for doing 20 minutes worth of courtsies?

Sansa Stark 04-23-2013 06:15 PM

Curtsies you mean? On cam?

Freebase Dali 04-23-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1310508)
Curtsies you mean? On cam?

Yea those. And it doesn't matter. As long as you're on this earth doing them for money.

Sansa Stark 04-23-2013 06:19 PM

$500

Freebase Dali 04-23-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1310510)
$500

:yikes:

Sansa Stark 04-23-2013 06:25 PM

What's more surprising as that people will pay that lmao

Janszoon 04-23-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1310515)
What's more surprising as that people will pay that lmao

I think that's what he's surprised about.

Sansa Stark 04-23-2013 06:29 PM

Really, I had no idea! Thanks for pointing that out for me!

Janszoon 04-23-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1310517)
Really, I had no idea! Thanks for pointing that out for me!

This service was provided free of charge. This time.

Freebase Dali 04-23-2013 06:34 PM

He is chief pointer-outer. His demo is free. His service will cost you.

Sansa Stark 04-23-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1310519)
This service was provided free of charge. This time.

lmao, no sarcasm this time, that was good

:clap:

Janszoon 04-23-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1310522)
He is chief pointer-outer. His demo is free. His service will cost you.

Executive chief pointer-outer, thank you very much.


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