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Old 07-23-2013, 01:46 PM   #61 (permalink)
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i agree with john in that we indirectly support morally questionable or flat out morally terrible things thru different avenues, whether its the tshirts we wear, things we eat, politicians we supports, etc etc etc. so it sounds stupid for someone like OP to implicate others when he surely supports moral atrocities as well.
If you read what the OP said, he acknowledged that it's not necessarily possible to act in 100% accordance with one's moral beliefs. And it would be more fair to the OP the recognize that he is talking about one specific atrocity, as he has mentioned and reminded us. It sounds stupid when you imply that people must either be perfectly moral or else just not give a **** and adjust their moral outlooks to what they can or cannot do (i.e. they should forgive all moral atrocities due to powerlessness to completely reverse them all).

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my outlook is also that it would be literally impossible in western civ. to not indirectly support some kind of morally questionable things. like literally impossible because our market and system is flooded with it so badly. it helps to not think about it
I'm sure that it helps you to place your entire head firmly in the sand. Do whatever feels right, I guess.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:31 PM   #62 (permalink)
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For the record, I wasn't saying the OP needed to be morally perfect in order to raise an issue, or even that this issue isn't worth raising. Just pointing out that knowing those guilt tactics could be used for any number of other ordinary purchases makes them seem much less compelling to me.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:46 PM   #63 (permalink)
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For the record, I wasn't saying the OP needed to be morally perfect in order to raise an issue, or even that this issue isn't worth raising. Just pointing out that knowing those guilt tactics could be used for any number of other ordinary purchases makes them seem much less compelling to me.
Nope it's too late now, you're banned. We don't allow different opinions here!
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:53 PM   #64 (permalink)
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For the record, I wasn't saying the OP needed to be morally perfect in order to raise an issue, or even that this issue isn't worth raising. Just pointing out that knowing those guilt tactics could be used for any number of other ordinary purchases makes them seem much less compelling to me.
well said, that's kind of what I was trying to say but I apparently didn't communicate it well, haha

Not to mention how classist it is to think that it's possible to live an entirely cruelty free life.
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