Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 03-29-2014, 09:47 PM

I'm mainly thinkin bout a woman wantin a kid but the father wantin abortion

I would imagine that scenarios more likely than vice versa

**Frownland** · 03-29-2014, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

The arguments on consulting the father seem to imply that life begins at conception - where do you all stand in that regard?

I hope wasn't implying that, as I don't hold that opinion. I just think that the father should be aware of the situation because it can be potentially be life altering for both parties if they decide to keep it. Also, if the woman wants an abortion and the man is vehemently against it, it should show the couple that they have some irreparable differences that can really hinder their relationship. Hopefully they know each other well enough to know things like that but too many people hop between the sheets without any consideration.

WWWP · 03-29-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

I'm mainly thinkin bout a woman wantin a kid but the father wantin abortion

I would imagine that scenarios more likely than vice versa

Right. I don't like the word "pressure" but I do agree there should be a conversation. I'm biased though because if it were my way no one would be having children at all.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I hope wasn't implying that, as I don't hold that opinion. I just think that the father should be aware of the situation because it can be potentially be life altering for both parties if they decide to keep it. Also, if the woman wants an abortion and the man is vehemently against it, it should show the couple that they have some irreparable differences that can really hinder their relationship. Hopefully they know each other well enough to know things like that but too many people hop between the sheets without any consideration.

No, you weren't. I meant the arguments in general, not the arguments any of you were making. Sorry, I kind of introduced a new topic with no segue.

RoxyRollah · 03-29-2014, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem

No, I say he doesn't. Because all he has to do is squirt his DNA to make the thing, and maybe spend some money.

A woman has to carry that extra weight around, literally and figuratively, for about 9 months and then go through a terribly painful process wherein this big ass thing squeezes itself out of her vagina and instantly wants to lick her nipples. Her body is never the same, if the guy decides to leave her for whatever reason 9/10 dudes aren't gonna wanna be with her, and any plans for independence or fun she had are down the drain because judges usually wanna award custody to the mother.

Dude has NO say. Sorry. Only date women who want your babies if it's a problem.

Hey now! I have a killer c section scar..Whose vagina is looking crazy? Dayum sho ain't mine...

Black Francis · 03-29-2014, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

The arguments on consulting the father seem to imply that life begins at conception - where do you all stand in that regard?

Hard to say, once the sperm reaches the egg yea, i think that's when life begins however just because it's a life i don't hold it sacred because at that point it's not a conscious human being it's just literally life trying to survive.

im pro choice because i believe some ppl aren't fit to be parents, why bring a child into a life of suffering? and here is the thing, you can tell right away when a girl wants her baby..

Her maternal instinct starts right away and if a woman feels that i think she is ready to be a mother regardless if she is not in an ideal situation.

If she decides to give up the baby for adoption, the child lives but that maternal chain is broken..
i think in that case the girl will always know she turned her back on motherhood and i think that will haunt her more than if she never had the child.

RoxyRollah · 03-29-2014, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Hard to say, once the sperm reaches the egg yea, i think that's when life begins however just because it's a life i don't hold it sacred because at that point it's not a conscious human being it's just literally life trying to survive.

im pro choice because i believe some ppl aren't fit to be parents, why bring a child into a life of suffering? and here is the thing, you can tell right away when a girl wants her baby..

Her maternal instinct starts right away and if a woman feels that i think she is ready to be a mother regardless if she is not in an ideal situation.

If she decides to give up the baby for adoption, the child lives but that maternal chain is broken..
i think in that case the girl will always know she turned her back on motherhood and i think that will haunt her more than if she never had the child.

While this is your opinion you are very very very wrong. You can't claim to know why a woman gives up her child. There are reasons other then them being unfit. I gave my daughter up. I do not feel like I turned my back on motherhood. You have no idea why I gave her up. You are making a very generalized statement. There isn't a day that goes by that I am haunted by what I did.
I choose to give her the best life a child could have, and every time I open letters with pictures, or updates in it. I feel relieved, that I did what I did. Because that kid is so cute, she would have run a muck all over me.

Burning Down · 03-29-2014, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

The arguments on consulting the father seem to imply that life begins at conception - where do you all stand in that regard?

I don't believe that life begins at conception. An embryo is not a sentient being and fetuses cannot live outside the mother's body until they are matured and viable enough to do so.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 03-29-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem

No, I say he doesn't. Because all he has to do is squirt his DNA to make the thing, and maybe spend some money.

A woman has to carry that extra weight around, literally and figuratively, for about 9 months and then go through a terribly painful process wherein this big ass thing squeezes itself out of her vagina and instantly wants to lick her nipples. Her body is never the same, if the guy decides to leave her for whatever reason 9/10 dudes aren't gonna wanna be with her, and any plans for independence or fun she had are down the drain because judges usually wanna award custody to the mother.

Dude has NO say. Sorry. Only date women who want your babies if it's a problem.

"Maybe spend some money"

Cmon bro more like 18 yrs worth of monthly checks

Black Francis · 03-30-2014, 01:49 PM

@RoxyRollah

K, first chillout a bit, i didn't know that..

And yea it was my assumption no need to take it personal
And just because you don't feel that it doesn't mean other girls don't.

I, as a guy can't speak for other woman
And you even though you are a woman don't speak for every woman .

When i meant the maternal chain is broken, i meant that most ppl that were adopted eventually seek out their real parrents, like there is an instinctive need to at least now who you real parents were.

That's what i meant by a maternal chain, i didn't mean to offend you or any girl that has lived through that.

RoxyRollah · 03-30-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

@RoxyRollah

K, first chillout a bit, i didn't know that..

And yea it was my assumption no need to take it personal
And just because you don't feel that it doesn't mean other girls don't.

I, as a guy can't speak for other woman
And you even though you are a woman don't speak for every woman .

When i meant the maternal chain is broken, i meant that most ppl that were adopted eventually seek out their real parrents, like there is an instinctive need to at least now who you real parents were.

That's what i meant by a maternal chain, i didn't mean to offend you or any girl that has lived through that.

I am chill. I just want to know when your book on pregnancy and adoption is coming out.
I mean cause you talk like you know somethin about it. That's like me writing
a manual on flying a 747.

I don't speak for all women, I speak for myself. That's because I am QAULIFED to do so...

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03-30-2014, 01:49 PM	#269 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	@RoxyRollah K, first chillout a bit, i didn't know that.. And yea it was my assumption no need to take it personal And just because you don't feel that it doesn't mean other girls don't. I, as a guy can't speak for other woman And you even though you are a woman don't speak for every woman . When i meant the maternal chain is broken, i meant that most ppl that were adopted eventually seek out their real parrents, like there is an instinctive need to at least now who you real parents were. That's what i meant by a maternal chain, i didn't mean to offend you or any girl that has lived through that. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

03-29-2014, 09:47 PM	#261 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	I'm mainly thinkin bout a woman wantin a kid but the father wantin abortion I would imagine that scenarios more likely than vice versa