aight, aight, i get it, i got across like some cocky know it all..

But honestly girls it was just a little personal theory of mine.

and i formed this theory after some experience ive had with this, experience i actually wrote down in this post but then i deleted it because i don't want to keep arguing with you girls.

Roxy i apologise if you felt judged by my statement, i admit it's a little judgy but plz know i didn't mean to offend you personally, aight?

Dude, I love you lets start there.

That being said, you haven't lived through adoption. Your chick chose the other route. That would be like me saying I know what that is like, because I held a girlfriend of mine in my arms while she cried after her ordeal went down. I can sympathize with her. But I can't say I know what she felt like that day. Just like you can't say you know what I feel, or any other woman.

BECAUSE YOU ARE A MAN BROTHER.

Maybe, going about this topic with some humility, instead of the self assured I am right in my way of thinking, you wouldn't get your head bit off. I am not sensitive about the greatest thing I have ever done with my life. What I am sensitive about, is people thinking they know what that is like, and stating about their opinion, with blind conviction.

Honey I ain't mad atcha. I want to help you understand.

Reach one, teach one man. Your personal experience with it only makes you a parent. Not a birth mother. HUGE DIFFERENCE. There is a joy that came for me personally knowing, that the lady my daughter went to waited two years on the waiting list, until someone picked her. I look at adopted children quite differently, in the respect that they were chosen. I choose not to be a part of her life right now, because that would confuse her. And that is not fair to her adopted mother. When she is 18 she is free to find me, and to learn I gave her up not because I didn't love her, but because I loved her that much.

The blind conviction of a guy i might add :p:

Honestly i should know better than to walk into an abortion thread telling woman how they feel lolol

I can't put myself in your panties i just can't.

;)....Wise man.

I am very much in support with this statement

And this one haha

And my original sentiments that it is ultimately up to the person carrying the fetus.... 10/10 times, the female... to decide if she wants to or not.

I'm like most people. I'm pro-life, but pro choice

Look, I'm religious, and that's why you may think overly strict here, but abortion is an objective issue for me (on paper, of course, in real life it's considerably more difficult for me to support my beliefs arguing against a real human being (especially a woman such as yourself), because emotions come into play, for better and for worse).

Personally, I believe the Bible says abortion is wrong, I don't like it, I feel that life is sacred, etc....but again, in real life I'm totally okay with compromising on abortion if absolutely necessary to achieve other goals.

You may be surprised to hear this, but I actually vote Democrat 90% of the time. I elect people who will best run our country, and I dislike that some people vote based strictly on moral issues. Abortion takes a back seat to supporting welfare, universal healthcare, and the economy.


This is pretty much the furthest thing from what I believe. I don't agree with anything you've said here, but I'm fine with your stance. Your arguments suck ass and are full of fallacies though.

You didn't mention what 'views' you're talking about here, but let's talk about Christianity's view on abortion: If you understood maybe 5% of what a Christian worldview is, you'd realize that 100% of all Christians believe that human life is sacred, so that bolded statement is completely irrelevant. **** animals, humans are so ****ing better than any ****ing animal.

Understand your opponent's stance on an issue before you start trying to debate (albeit poorly) with them.

So, let me get this straight, because you go to church and read the bible, it's ok on paper to throw your opinions around? But in real life you are ok with supporting a means to an end that is either medically necessary, or maybe emotionally damaging to the mother if not aborted.

You realize you are hanging your agenda on god right? Show me in the bible where it says THOU SHALT NOT ABORT THY BABY. (I have read the bible cover to cover, many times, and in different translations.It's not there.)

Now the fact that in irl, you have a completely different thought process on the issue tells me two things. One, you get off on spewing your religious filled rhetoric at people,your ego likes to be inflated by judging. (Attitudes like this pollute the church and is one the reasons I dropped out of seminary.) And two, your belief in your rhetoric is so blind, the only thing you can do is twist God's words around to fit your personal needs. It amuses me, when humans do this. Because we are all so narcissistic we think God actually thinks like we do. It's the I think there for I am mentality. I can read the bible and walk away with the belief that reincarnation exists because I read a verse in second Timothy one time. Does that make it true? No, does it make those who don't believe what I believe less wrong? No.

True humility, and true "Christ"like behavior, would (in my opinion) be to be accepting of each woman, and her choice. To understand it, and love her through it, whatever the choice she made was. True humility is being able to remove yourself, and your ego from a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with you, and keep your judgements to yourself. Not because, you are being tolerant of something you don't believe in, but because you are possibly doing more damage to a human soul, by judging them, instead of loving them. It's hard enough to make the decision to terminate a pregnancy. It's a situation that needs to be treated with respect, and reverence that it deserves. It doesn't need to be paraded about as a way for the church to pound away on their bibles, and toot their own horns. It's not for the church to take their opinions and hang it on the necks of women as they leave the clinic. The bible says go you to the far corners of the world and preach the gospel. Not go you unto far corners of the world., beat into submission,judge and scare people into believing this.
Christianity 101 is about saving souls man. SAVING souls. You can't save something by hurting it, by belittling it, by judging it.

Human life is sacred in most religions and death is a part of life, whether it starts in the the womb or it comes at the end of a life fully lived it's still death, and it has to happen.

I don't know why you even brought that up.

That would be because I'm not arguing, I am aware you are incapable of understanding my argument having been around this block before with people like you.

So yeah... I do understand your stance. I just have no desire to understand it any further because I think your consideration of a half-formed clump of DNA to be superior to an actual woman is sick.

You are a bad man and I would rather debate with a pedophile.