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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1436723)

:o: Thanks honey bunch. What's that women can't be pastors? Eat my shorts.
Any time you want to talk about God, feel free to start a thread, or point me in the direction of the right thread and I'll go ten rounds with you. :D

Please don't.

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1436730)

Please don't.

MOVE YOUR NOSE, Fred!

I kidd you not here in PR we have a lesbo congregation called 'Las ovejas del otro rebaño' which means 'The sheeps from the other herd'

it's a gay church.

i wonder what their views on abortion are..

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1436460)

Look, I'm religious, and that's why you may think overly strict here, but abortion is an objective issue for me (on paper, of course, in real life it's considerably more difficult for me to support my beliefs arguing against a real human being (especially a woman such as yourself), because emotions come into play, for better and for worse).

Personally, I believe the Bible says abortion is wrong, I don't like it, I feel that life is sacred, etc....but again, in real life I'm totally okay with compromising on abortion if absolutely necessary to achieve other goals.

You may be surprised to hear this, but I actually vote Democrat 90% of the time. I elect people who will best run our country, and I dislike that some people vote based strictly on moral issues. Abortion takes a back seat to supporting welfare, universal healthcare, and the economy.

This is pretty much the furthest thing from what I believe. I don't agree with anything you've said here, but I'm fine with your stance. Your arguments suck ass and are full of fallacies though.

You didn't mention what 'views' you're talking about here, but let's talk about Christianity's view on abortion: If you understood maybe 5% of what a Christian worldview is, you'd realize that 100% of all Christians believe that human life is sacred, so that bolded statement is completely irrelevant. **** animals, humans are so ****ing better than any ****ing animal.

Understand your opponent's stance on an issue before you start trying to debate (albeit poorly) with them.

The bible doesn't explicitly condemn abortion persay, you can tear a page out and hear it how you want it. A lot of Christians do turn to the Bible for their morals and many do consider abortion to be a moral wrong, but there's also a good portion of Christians that take the other view. The Bible does value life highly, but a great deal of the discussion on abortion is defining life, so it can be construed either way depending on how you feel about a fetus's stance as a human. Look at Gallup polls and you'll see that 38 percent of Catholics were pro choice and other Christians in a margin of 33 percent as of 2012. So come off it when you try to encompass Christianity's views as one singular stance, it's a divisive issue so there's division even where you'd least expect it.

EDIT: Source: Gallup: Nonreligious Are Least 'Pro-Life'

Pro-choice. If a parent isn't ready for or capable of raising children, then they shouldn't be forced to, for the child's sake and for future society's sake when the fatherless, uneducated children with low socioeconomic background become criminals.

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1436955)

Ummm...............

Points earned from pro choice statement have been neutralized by your final statement. Not saying your opinion is wrong. I am a little taken a back by the thought that all people from low income broken homes are suddenly criminals.

Some of them go on to become doctors,lawyers, and good people that wear suits.... Just throwing that out there.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1436959)

Points off for thinking all Doctors and Lawyers have to wear suits.

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1436961)

Points off for thinking all Doctors and Lawyers have to wear suits.

points off for assuming I meant it was them in suits. Criminals wear suits to court. Or at least they should.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1436959)

I didn't say that, nor do I believe it! I come from a low socioeconomic background and I am a published scientist.

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1436966)

I didn't say that, nor do I believe it! I come from a low socioeconomic background and I am a published scientist.

There you have it! DO YOU WEAR A SUIT?