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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1462525)

So telling you that you come on here to troll is trolling? :rolleyes:

The Ascension, I don't think you are a misogynist but at the same time it's a bit strange having a man say what a woman should do with a bunch of cells.

As I said, it depends what one views the fetus as - a "bunch of cells", or a living being.

And I don't see what makes it strange. Abortion is a common issue. Are only women supposed to discuss the morality of it?

For the record, I am far closer to pro choice than pro life - but I feel as though my suggestion fulfills a bit of a compromise. I guess not.

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1462525)

The Ascension, I don't think you are a misogynist but at the same time it's a bit strange having a man say what a woman should do with a bunch of cells.

Regardless of how much I might agree with someone I think it's a bit reductionist to call a fetus "a bunch of cells". They are, obviously, but if that's all they were then I imagine it wouldn't be such an emotional event for a woman to abort one. A fetus is more than the sum of its parts in the mind of a person. They're the promise of a person. I mean I can't really think of a fetus without also thinking of a baby or a child. So I can understand people letting that get in the way of their logic when talking about abortion.

I don't know you well enough to fairly make such an accusation so I apologize too. I was under the impression you were the alternate account of a previous user who made a name for himself being a misogynist prick. I'm kind of a drunken asshat sometimes.

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1462531)

I am all me. And it's cool. I know that feel, I've made the same mistakes on a different forum (I accidentally banned a guy once under the guise that he was a previously banned user, turns out he wasn't - oops).

Yay everyone is friends <3

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1462527)

I haven't been trolling at all, you're trying to stir me up for no reason. I've been nothing but polite and well-intentioned, so stop being petty and immature. It used to work, but it won't work on me anymore.

You've been accusing WhateverDude of things and suddenly now you're innocent? I have seen you do this so many times and it's really boring. How about posting like a normal member, not just coming here to create drama where there was none.

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Originally Posted by The Ascension (Post 1462528)

It's our bodies though, it's not a mans right to tell us whether having an abortion is lazy/unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1462529)

I agree that there is definitely an emotional part of having an abortion, but scientifically it's just cells up to a certain amount of weeks. It's down to the woman to make the decision, whether or not someone thinks its morally right or wrong.

That's a perfectly fair stance, and not one that I can really argue with.

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1462541)

Sure but my point is that it's an emotional issue for everyone, so painting it as purely scientific when judging someone is unfair.

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Originally Posted by The Ascension (Post 1462542)

That's a perfectly fair stance, and not one that I can really argue with.