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Xurtio 04-08-2014 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1436968)
There you have it! DO YOU WEAR A SUIT?
I can be found in my office in a torn Iron Maiden shirt and black sweat pants. Unless I'm giving a presentation. Then I wear jeans with the Iron Maiden shirt.

FRED HALE SR. 04-08-2014 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1436972)
I can be found in my office in a torn Iron Maiden shirt and black sweat pants. Unless I'm giving a presentation. Then I wear jeans with the Iron Maiden shirt.
I love the Idea of a scientist saving the world and listening to Aces High in the background while he does it.

Plankton 04-08-2014 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1436966)
I didn't say that, nor do I believe it! I come from a low socioeconomic background and I am a published scientist.
Not to get off topic, but what was the topic of the publication?

Curious dude is curious.

Xurtio 04-08-2014 09:33 AM
Transient spatiotemporal chaos in the Morris-Lecar neuronal ring network

FRED HALE SR. 04-08-2014 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1436989)
I'm assuming thats something to do with brain waves?

Xurtio 04-08-2014 09:41 AM
Yes. Though, it's more about the underlying mechanisms that lead to emergent network behavior (such a brain waves would be). It does also make a specific prediction about the source of gamma oscillations in the hippocampus.

Plankton 04-08-2014 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1436989)
Whoa.

Check out the big brain on Brett.

:thumb: Nice.

Xurtio 04-08-2014 09:43 AM
^_^

FRED HALE SR. 04-08-2014 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1436993)
Yes. Though, it's more about the underlying mechanisms that lead to emergent network behavior (such a brain waves would be). It does also make a specific prediction about the source of gamma oscillations in the hippocampus.
Gamma oscillations what a nice segue into the hippocampus. Ha Ha. :beer:

Xurtio 04-08-2014 10:00 AM
I have to find a way to segue into widespread medical diseases so that I'll get funding from NIH :P

Xurtio 04-08-2014 10:01 AM
Alternatively, I could just become a rockstar and drop out of my PhD program. I'd be ok with that, too.

RoxyRollah 04-08-2014 10:41 AM
Right but do you wear a ****in suit?

Xurtio 04-08-2014 10:42 AM
I answered your question :P

RoxyRollah 04-08-2014 10:43 AM
you answered my question but cock blocked my joke boo...

Xurtio 04-08-2014 10:50 AM
I do that **** all the time because I'm clueless.

The Batlord 04-08-2014 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1436972)
I can be found in my office in a torn Iron Maiden shirt and black sweat pants. Unless I'm giving a presentation. Then I wear jeans with the Iron Maiden shirt.
Not to get off topic, but what Iron Maiden shirt is it?

Curious metal dude is curiously metal.

Xurtio 04-08-2014 11:04 AM
Killers and Power Slave are the two I own.

Scarlett O'Hara 04-08-2014 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1436504)
So, let me get this straight, because you go to church and read the bible, it's ok on paper to throw your opinions around? But in real life you are ok with supporting a means to an end that is either medically necessary, or maybe emotionally damaging to the mother if not aborted.

You realize you are hanging your agenda on god right? Show me in the bible where it says THOU SHALT NOT ABORT THY BABY. (I have read the bible cover to cover, many times, and in different translations.It's not there.)

Now the fact that in irl, you have a completely different thought process on the issue tells me two things. One, you get off on spewing your religious filled rhetoric at people,your ego likes to be inflated by judging. (Attitudes like this pollute the church and is one the reasons I dropped out of seminary.) And two, your belief in your rhetoric is so blind, the only thing you can do is twist God's words around to fit your personal needs. It amuses me, when humans do this. Because we are all so narcissistic we think God actually thinks like we do. It's the I think there for I am mentality. I can read the bible and walk away with the belief that reincarnation exists because I read a verse in second Timothy one time. Does that make it true? No, does it make those who don't believe what I believe less wrong? No.

True humility, and true "Christ"like behavior, would (in my opinion) be to be accepting of each woman, and her choice. To understand it, and love her through it, whatever the choice she made was. True humility is being able to remove yourself, and your ego from a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with you, and keep your judgements to yourself. Not because, you are being tolerant of something you don't believe in, but because you are possibly doing more damage to a human soul, by judging them, instead of loving them. It's hard enough to make the decision to terminate a pregnancy. It's a situation that needs to be treated with respect, and reverence that it deserves. It doesn't need to be paraded about as a way for the church to pound away on their bibles, and toot their own horns. It's not for the church to take their opinions and hang it on the necks of women as they leave the clinic. The bible says go you to the far corners of the world and preach the gospel. Not go you unto far corners of the world., beat into submission,judge and scare people into believing this.
Christianity 101 is about saving souls man. SAVING souls. You can't save something by hurting it, by belittling it, by judging it.

Human life is sacred in most religions and death is a part of life, whether it starts in the the womb or it comes at the end of a life fully lived it's still death, and it has to happen.

I don't know why you even brought that up.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

This, exactly this.

The Ascension 06-20-2014 10:11 PM
There should be strict regulations on abortions, but they should be legal in general. Maybe put a cap on how many abortions an individual can have performed on them.

Simple solution to cutting down abortions is holding oneself responsible by making sure you're as protected as possible (if you don't intend on having a child, obviously). There will be varying instances where this isn't an option (like being impregnated via rape), but I'd wager a guess that a fair amount of couples/women getting abortions were just lazy during consenual sex.

GuD 06-20-2014 10:51 PM
As many abortions as a person with a vagina wants/needs is the amount of abortions they may have. The End.

Fiscal responsibility? Sure. But it's no one else's body but their own. It's not a decision for anyone but the one deciding for themselves to make. The End.

Carpe Mortem 06-20-2014 10:53 PM
Condoms feel weird.

BC ****s with your hormones.

The BC that doesn't **** with your hormones gives you cancer.

Scarlett O'Hara 06-21-2014 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by The Ascension (Post 1462304)
There should be strict regulations on abortions, but they should be legal in general. Maybe put a cap on how many abortions an individual can have performed on them.

Simple solution to cutting down abortions is holding oneself responsible by making sure you're as protected as possible (if you don't intend on having a child, obviously). There will be varying instances where this isn't an option (like being impregnated via rape), but I'd wager a guess that a fair amount of couples/women getting abortions were just lazy during consenual sex.
So as usual a white boy wants to decide what women should do with their bodies. Have you met many women who've had abortions? How do you conclude a "fair amount" of abortions are because of women being too lazy to have protected sex? Like what are you basing that on?

hate paper doll 06-21-2014 02:14 AM
To be fair, he did say a fair amount of couples/women, not just women. And he's got a point, if you don't want kids, take precautions. I'm pro choice as hell, I don't agree that people should only be allowed to have a certain number of abortions, but yeah - if you end up with an unwanted pregnancy that isn't the result of a sexual assault or faulty birth control, you and your partner goofed somewhere. I wouldn't say people are lazy, but I have dealt with friends being stuck in a bad situation because they were too afraid that insisting on a condom would turn the guy they were with off. But again regardless of how it happens, if someone chooses abortion that's their right.

GuD 06-21-2014 02:56 AM
Your friends have sex with some ****ty ass men. Those kindsa guys don't deserve the privilege of sex.

GuD 06-21-2014 03:06 AM
Seriously, if Dirty/216 is back, I bet it's ascension. Inebriated or not, I can sniff out a mysoginist like those dogs who sniff out dope.

Carpe Mortem 06-21-2014 09:15 AM
I'll admit we've had some pregnancy scares because I usually won't let him use a condom. Its just that we've been riding bareback since I first started having sex, and I can't get used to a stupid ****ty wall of rubber.

My only motivation for getting birth control has been the desire to feel him *** inside me. I'm convinced i won't get pregnant with our pull and pray method.

Sansa Stark 06-21-2014 09:22 AM
...you know you don't have nerves past like two inches right? so you won't actually feel it unless ya man got a tiny dick

tbh it's not as gr8 as it is in theory mostly its gross when it starts dripping out of you

YorkeDaddy 06-21-2014 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1462343)
Seriously, if Dirty/216 is back, I bet it's ascension. Inebriated or not, I can sniff out a mysoginist like those dogs who sniff out dope.
Please stop insulting people just because they disagree with you on matters like this.

Sansa Stark 06-21-2014 10:12 AM
Nah brodude is right on this one, if you think you have any say on what people with uteruses do with said uteruses you're a misogynist. It's like saying just b/c you don't think same sex marriage should be legal doesn't mean you're homophobic lol

YorkeDaddy 06-21-2014 10:15 AM
I'm not here to argue about that, I'm just tired of WD trying to be the almighty moral compass that stands above everyone else when it comes to every single issue that exists. Everyone comes from different backgrounds and thinks differently; WD thinks he's tolerant of everything when he's actually overly absorbed in his own values to the point where he condemns anyone that thinks otherwise. Frankly though there are a LOT of members here like that, this is just a more explicit example.

Mr. Charlie 06-21-2014 10:17 AM
I don't agree with the caps idea either. Women should be free to have as many as they want.

Oh, and whoever suggested the caps idea is a STUPID WOMAN-HATING IDIOT! Sorry, Yorke, I just wanted to know how it felt being on the other side.

Forgive me. ;)

Sansa Stark 06-21-2014 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1462393)
I'm not here to argue about that, I'm just tired of WD trying to be the almighty moral compass that stands above everyone else when it comes to every single issue that exists. Everyone comes from different backgrounds and thinks differently; WD thinks he's tolerant of everything when he's actually overly absorbed in his own values to the point where he condemns anyone that thinks otherwise. Frankly though there are a LOT of members here like that, this is just a more explicit example.
lol tru

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1462394)
I don't agree with the caps idea either. Women should be free to have as many as they want.

Oh, and whoever suggested the caps idea is a STUPID WOMAN-HATING IDIOT! Sorry, Yorke, I just wanted to know how it felt being on the other side.

Forgive me. ;)

Mr. Charlie 06-21-2014 10:29 AM
Meanie.

YorkeDaddy 06-21-2014 10:34 AM
I do want to add however that I think WD is a really cool guy that is generally very friendly and passionate about what he believes in, but almost too passionate to a fault sometimes

Sansa Stark 06-21-2014 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1462398)
Meanie.

The Ascension 06-21-2014 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1462343)
Seriously, if Dirty/216 is back, I bet it's ascension. Inebriated or not, I can sniff out a mysoginist like those dogs who sniff out dope.
Yah I'm not even close to a misogynist. I just question whether or not a couple/woman killing off a new child because they don't want one is ethical or not. Wouldnt care if men were the ones getting pregnant. I just don't think it's cool to kill off as many babies as one wants. I mean, really, who needs to have 4-5 abortions? Am I the only one who thinks that's ridiculous?

And I'm not even against abortions on the whole, as I pointed out. It's just a grey area for me, ethically. I'm not even firmly on one side or the other, just sharing my thoughts. I don't like getting labeled a misogynist when it just isn't true. I'm not gonna be standing outside any abortions clinics, protesting and demanding them to stop or anything.

Sansa Stark 06-21-2014 12:30 PM
A clump of cells is not a child.

The Ascension 06-21-2014 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1462421)
A clump of cells is not a child.
That's really the main issue in these abortion debates. Whether one consider the fetus to be a living life form or not.

I don't know if I'd say a fetus is quite the equivalent of a human life, but, I mean, it's something that is GOING to be a human life. It really comes down to personal ethics.

I don't think people that are pro life are egregious - I just question it ethically, myself.

Sansa Stark 06-21-2014 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by The Ascension (Post 1462424)
That's really the main issue in these abortion debates. Whether one consider the fetus to be a living life form or not.

I don't know if I'd say a fetus is quite the equivalent of a human life, but, I mean, it's something that is GOING to be a human life. It really comes down to personal ethics.

I don't think people that are pro life are egregious - I just question it ethically, myself.
You'll never be pregnant so why are you questioning it at all?

The Ascension 06-21-2014 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1462430)
You'll never be pregnant so why are you questioning it at all?
Because it's a regularly discussed issue in this country?

Honestly, I don't feel strongly enough about this issue either way to get into a full fledged debate. I kinda regret my post, was a by product of straight boredom. I really wasn't trying to offend anyone. Maybe I'm being naive. I usually hate getting involved in these discussions.


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