No more naughty films for Brits?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-22-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Newkie

To be fair though, that's not really going to work. I mean it wouldn't have worked in our school and kids are becoming chopsier bastards as the years go on, they wouldn't get a single serious answer.

Yeah they'd try and wum the teachers no doubt, but if they kept getting serious answers they'd soon get bored of it. That was just an idea anyway, the point is sex education is fucking shit in this country and needs sorting.

Also, lol'd at 'naughty films' in thread title.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 07-22-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Newkie

This, though I'm not sure what the best method would be.

To be fair though, that's not really going to work. I mean it wouldn't have worked in our school and kids are becoming chopsier bastards as the years go on, they wouldn't get a single serious answer.

I dunno, I think the whole notion of this is complete ****e anyway and it's taking responsibility away from parents. It's not going to stop kids watching porn, some will have it unblocked in their homes anyway, others will find ways round it. I mean you could probably just google "ways round new porn law" immediately after it was enacted and sort it out. Maybe they'll sort it out by having sex at younger ages?

It all just smacks of conservative posturing by our number one bell end.

Since I'm a sex worker & queer I pretty much think of sexuality like shitting (lmao) and eating, I would probably just tell my children all the basics and especially stress that sexuality is not shameful and curiosity is natural and as long as they engage in consensual practices what they do with their genitalia is their business and it's wrong for anyone to tell them otherwise. I would ESPECIALLY stress no matter what gender they were, that love and sex don't equal each other and you don't have to love someone to **** them but it's important to treat someone you have sex with with respect.

But if I were weird, I'd probably give them Scarleteen | Sex Education For The Real World & Go Ask Alice! if I wanted to not be embarrassed because these two places literally cover everything pretty much on the spectrum of human sexuality (including LGBTQ+ issues) and then they could just use that as a resource because it's really useful.

But if they had any questions, I'd answer them truthfully without trying to push too much.

Making this about porn is weird and skeevy

Newkie · 07-22-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

Yeah they'd try and wum the teachers no doubt, but if they kept getting serious answers they'd soon get bored of it. That was just an idea anyway, the point is sex education is fucking shit in this country and needs sorting.

Yeah, definitely.

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Originally Posted by Hermione

Since I'm a sex worker & queer I pretty much think of sexuality like shitting (lmao) and eating, I would probably just tell my children all the basics and especially stress that sexuality is not shameful and curiosity is natural and as long as they engage in consensual practices what they do with their genitalia is their business and it's wrong for anyone to tell them otherwise. I would ESPECIALLY stress no matter what gender they were, that love and sex don't equal each other and you don't have to love someone to **** them but it's important to treat someone you have sex with with respect.

Yeah for sure. I'm sure "the internet generation" will be more liberal with this sort of stuff on the whole, kinda have to be. But it's not really something I'd thought about to be honest.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-22-2013, 10:56 AM

oh wow great job guys, this guy read the negative effects of porn thread, i knew it shoulda never been created as a topic

14232949 · 07-22-2013, 11:01 AM

I see it a bit like prison. When you lock a man up who has sexual urges, when you put him in an environment where he cannot see his sexual partners, pay for escorts or access pornography or however he met his sexual desires he'll start raping his fellow inmates. It happens, not in every case but the pent up sexual frustration will take over and despite not being gay to satisfy his urges he will force himself on another man. Or perhaps not even force, many male inmates turn into prison 'wives' after being sexually oppressed for so long.

Now imagine a similar environment where one can only get their sexual release by accessing child porn. Just like in the analogy, you put that person in an environment where they can't access it, and they'll start raping kids to get their fill.

I know the internet probably won't go into lock down (yet, it will one day, believe me) but just the notion itself is obviously one that hasn't at all been thought out. I'm not one for bashing the Government, I respect the tough job they do and know that none of the people who rant and rave about them would have any idea how to handle a nations budget, etc but this concept of trying to block pornography just has such a horrible backlash waiting to happen that I can't believe it wasn't better thought out. Especially in a day and age where society is as scared of itself as it is anyway, the last thing the government would want is to actually give people a legitimate reason to be scared. They can control the manufactured ones, you can't control some sexually deprived lunatic fucking your 8 year old.

LoathsomePete · 07-22-2013, 11:04 AM

And this won't affect the people using bypasses like Tor (a popular method) even in the slightest.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-22-2013, 11:07 AM

my massive porn collection could become valuable, this is the big break i bene lookin for

Psy-Fi · 07-22-2013, 11:32 AM

“The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.”
― Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-22-2013, 11:37 AM

i feel that if this would actually happen and somehow porn became scarce then cyber sex would reach an all time high

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-22-2013, 11:45 AM

Sex education in my school was fucking shocking to be fair and I can't imagine it being much better now, Primary school was quite good considering, but secondary school (11-16) we had two single lessons in the 3 years I was there. They covered the very basics of getting pregnant (the man sticks his D in the V) and how to put a condom on. That was it. Had so many questions I didn't know the answer to as well.

Kids will find porn regardless though (me and my mates would find magazines in bushes, steal from shops, nick videos off friend's dads etc so there were plenty of ways to get it before the internet took off) it's just now they've got so much of it a couple of seconds away it's ridiculous.

How do people suggest teaching kids to use the internet responsibly? I think it's completely unworkable.

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14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	I see it a bit like prison. When you lock a man up who has sexual urges, when you put him in an environment where he cannot see his sexual partners, pay for escorts or access pornography or however he met his sexual desires he'll start raping his fellow inmates. It happens, not in every case but the pent up sexual frustration will take over and despite not being gay to satisfy his urges he will force himself on another man. Or perhaps not even force, many male inmates turn into prison 'wives' after being sexually oppressed for so long. Now imagine a similar environment where one can only get their sexual release by accessing child porn. Just like in the analogy, you put that person in an environment where they can't access it, and they'll start raping kids to get their fill. I know the internet probably won't go into lock down (yet, it will one day, believe me) but just the notion itself is obviously one that hasn't at all been thought out. I'm not one for bashing the Government, I respect the tough job they do and know that none of the people who rant and rave about them would have any idea how to handle a nations budget, etc but this concept of trying to block pornography just has such a horrible backlash waiting to happen that I can't believe it wasn't better thought out. Especially in a day and age where society is as scared of itself as it is anyway, the last thing the government would want is to actually give people a legitimate reason to be scared. They can control the manufactured ones, you can't control some sexually deprived lunatic fucking your 8 year old.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Sex education in my school was fucking shocking to be fair and I can't imagine it being much better now, Primary school was quite good considering, but secondary school (11-16) we had two single lessons in the 3 years I was there. They covered the very basics of getting pregnant (the man sticks his D in the V) and how to put a condom on. That was it. Had so many questions I didn't know the answer to as well. Kids will find porn regardless though (me and my mates would find magazines in bushes, steal from shops, nick videos off friend's dads etc so there were plenty of ways to get it before the internet took off) it's just now they've got so much of it a couple of seconds away it's ridiculous. How do people suggest teaching kids to use the internet responsibly? I think it's completely unworkable.